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A steel shield is listed as 1 bulk. Shield bash is listed as 1 bulk. Shield boss is listed as 1 bulk. Does this mean that a shield with a shield boss is 2 bulk, or combined they are still 1 bulk?
Shield bash, boss and spike are all listed as '-' bulk, not 1 bulk.
Ha! I've done that before. And the other way a few times. :)
Not sure why you're even looking at these outdated options, Gisher, when a buckler with 9 short swords glued on it is L. #BulkExploits
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Not sure why you're even looking at these outdated options, Gisher, when a buckler with 9 short swords glued on it is L. #BulkExploits
LOL, that's amateur hour: Take your gold and put it in 999 pile before putting it in a sack. Each sack now weighs 1 L. Now go to your horse and put those bags on your horse and watch as each sack of 999 coins turns into a negligible bulk. As such, you can put a non-vast number of those sacks on a horse and it doesn't weigh down the horse in the least. And that's how millions of gold pieces where stolen that day by a single horse. #BulkExploits
You've got my gears turning... Can 9 hand crossbows fire through a sack???
Not sure why you're even looking at these outdated options, Gisher, when a buckler with 9 short swords glued on it is L. #BulkExploits
My post was confusingly written. I was talking about switching those two table columns like Thomas Keller did.
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I know. We took the opportunity on this Bulk-related thread to do some Bulk Trolling :) I mistakenly replied to you instead of Thomas. I ruined everything.
Ten of the same thing. ;)
Ten of the same thing. ;)
No, the rules just say "Ten light items count as 1 Bulk"; nothing about them having to be the same thing.
Your buckler-plus-swords is indeed Bulky. For shame, Plane, for shame!
Not sure why you're even looking at these outdated options, Gisher, when a buckler with 9 short swords glued on it is L. #BulkExploitsDoesn't ten L make 1 bulk?
Only for a medium creature. For a horse, 10 L items equal a L object.
Only for a medium creature. For a horse, 10 L items equal a L object....I don't think that's accurate. Large creatures, such as horses, treat L items as negligible bulk (-) - and the text accompanying the chart uses an example of "a Huge creature treats items of 1 Bulk as negligible, so it can carry any number of items of 1 Bulk" so that shows that Large creatures should do the same with L bulk items.
...which I say because accuracy of the rules is important to me, even when I know you're likely to dislike the rule even more than you did with your inaccurate estimation of it.
If you follow the nested quotes, it's referring to "a buckler with 9 short swords glued on it is L". As a connected package, they move up to 1 bulk but on a large sized creature it moves them back down to L.
I'd already explained earlier in the thread how individual L items turn to '-' or negligible bulk:
Take your gold and put it in 999 pile before putting it in a sack. Each sack now weighs 1 L. Now go to your horse and put those bags on your horse and watch as each sack of 999 coins turns into a negligible bulk. As such, you can put a non-vast number of those sacks on a horse and it doesn't weigh down the horse in the least. And that's how millions of gold pieces where stolen that day by a single horse. #BulkExploits
Ten of the same thing. ;)No, the rules just say "Ten light items count as 1 Bulk"; nothing about them having to be the same thing.
Your buckler-plus-swords is indeed Bulky. For shame, Plane, for shame!
I was convinced they meant ten of the same, otherwise it's ridiculous to say L instead of .1, which consequently would have made my excel character sheet that much simpler. Holy crud, just when I was starting to accept Bulk as "the way" it turns out it was just another purely numeric encumbrance system.
All my precious #BulkExploit's! My beautiful world, gone, gone!
Ten of the same thing. ;)No, the rules just say "Ten light items count as 1 Bulk"; nothing about them having to be the same thing.
Your buckler-plus-swords is indeed Bulky. For shame, Plane, for shame!
I was convinced they meant ten of the same, otherwise it's ridiculous to say L instead of .1, which consequently would have made my excel character sheet that much simpler. Holy crud, just when I was starting to accept Bulk as "the way" it turns out it was just another purely numeric encumbrance system.
All my precious #BulkExploit's! My beautiful world, gone, gone!
Not necessarily. If you can figure out a way to throw your horse then you're golden.
I was convinced they meant ten of the same, otherwise it's ridiculous to say L instead of .1, which consequently would have made my excel character sheet that much simpler. Holy crud, just when I was starting to accept Bulk as "the way" it turns out it was just another purely numeric encumbrance system.
Yeah, I always record L as 0.1, and put 5.9 for the carry capacity of someone with Str 10 (for instance). "3.8/5.9" etc is a bit ugly, but if I record it as 5 then I tend to read it as them having 9L less to spare than they do.
I suspect the use of L instead of 0.1 is driven (at least partially) by many math-class-traumatized people being allergic to decimals.
Even speaking as one who could (and liked to) calculate percentages at the age of 5 or 6, when I play I prefer the simplicity of counting abstract bulk instead of adding exact numbers.
Even with L things, you can usually just eye them and have a quick idea of how much bulk they make: less than 1, between 1 and 2, and such.
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Now Plane's next character can be a short, purple skinned, goblin dhampir, with a particular obsessive-compulsive disorder, and 9 handcrossbows strapped together
Even speaking as one who could (and liked to) calculate percentages at the age of 5 or 6
Same here.
when I play I prefer the simplicity of counting abstract bulk instead of adding exact numbers.
Even with L things, you can usually just eye them and have a quick idea of how much bulk they make: less than 1, between 1 and 2, and such.
Can't agree here: the abstraction slows me down but I can add up decimals without really thinking about it.
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Now Plane's next character can be a short, purple skinned, goblin dhampir, with a particular obsessive-compulsive disorder, and 9 handcrossbows strapped together
Nine! Nine beautiful hand crossbows!