Just wondering as I am curious if they are different than in Pathfinder.
In Dead Suns book 4, the Ruined Clouds, there is a Drift encounter.
In Signal of Screams book 3, Heart of Night, the adventure takes place in the Shadow Plane.
In Dawn of Flame, it deals heavily with the Plane of Fire and the Sun. The AP also introduces plenty of plane-touched races.
In Against the Swarm book 5, Hive of the Mind, you enter a mindscape.
The articles in Signal of Screams 3 & Dawn of Flame 6 on the Shadow Plane & Plane of Fire, respectively, are off the top of my head the only articles dedicated to planes that existed in Pathfinder, though Starship Operations Manual does touch a very little bit on the First World, Heaven, & Hell(there are ftl drives that work basically the same as drift engines, except taking the ship through those planes instead).
I haven't given the two articles in depth reads or cross referenced them with the PF1e articles on the planes, but at a glance the answer is they haven't changed too much, you're just somewhat more likely to see a star ship flying over head or a mephit with a datapad.
But like I said, haven't read into it much.
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I'm honestly looking forward to a hardcover detailing the Starfinder version of the Planescape. I find that stuff fascinating! Are the planes high-tech now? Or were they always and only masqueraded as antiquated for silly Primes?
And since each plane is effectively infinite, does each plane have its own outer space? Could you travel to different planets in the First World? Would it be awesome?
SOM touches on some of this. Cosmetically, the Great Beyond has updated its tech, but none of the basic structure of the planes has changed, though some knowledge has been lost. (For example, post-Gap, planar researchers know the Dimension of Dreams exists -- and that's just about all they know about it.)
The First World is still one unimaginably vast, morphic landscape; it has no "outer space."
I'm honestly looking forward to a hardcover detailing the Starfinder version of the Planescape. I find that stuff fascinating! Are the planes high-tech now? Or were they always and only masqueraded as antiquated for silly Primes?
And since each plane is effectively infinite, does each plane have its own outer space? Could you travel to different planets in the First World? Would it be awesome?
Like John said, the First World doesn't have an outer space, but what it does have are regions that correspond to planets in the material plane. The First Drive is an interstellar engine that works basically the same as a drift engine, except it takes you to the First World instead of the Drift, and travels between these locations as way points.
A draw back is that you can only go to locations that have corresponding counter points in the First World; i.e., natural locations. You could travel to Akiton, but you couldn't travel to Absolom Station or Apostae.
Also I've personally always been a fan of the interpretation that technology & the planes don't necessarily operate on the same principles as they do in the material & that they're more a representation of what the observer wants/expects to see. High technology isn't new, after all. It's been established that there were advanced technological races tens of millions of years before the current time period, and the planes & the outsiders all existed then. Even during the pathfinder era, Verces & Eox were technologically advanced societies that would have had planar contact.
So I don't like the idea that the planes have really changed because there's no reason for them not to have had access to high technology for longer than intelligent life on Golarion has existed for. It's more, whether an angel or a devil manifests it's weapon as a bow & arrow or a laser gun is more dependent on the culture it's interacting with.
Does it say anywhere what Dis in Hell is like? I was thinking it would be like something out of 1984 (the book, not the year).
Does it say anywhere what Dis in Hell is like? I was thinking it would be like something out of 1984 (the book, not the year).
Not exactly, but we know that while Asmodeus seems to have taken a step back, it's clear Hell has his tentacles in at least one planet.
Ooo! And don't forget - every time a Drift engine is used, there is a chance for a chunk of another plane to end up added to the Drift. Which means entering the drift might cause a swarm of imps to splatter across your starship's "windshield." Or some other outsider might spontaneously appear on board, like one of those reactor fey. Or an entire island floating in the drift pulled from The Boneyard made from the left eye of Groetus.
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Ooo! And don't forget - every time a Drift engine is used, there is a chance for a chunk of another plane to end up added to the Drift. Which means entering the drift might cause a swarm of imps to splatter across your starship's "windshield." Or some other outsider might spontaneously appear on board, like one of those reactor fey. Or an entire island floating in the drift pulled from The Boneyard made from the left eye of Groetus.
I always ponder some poor sap going to work at the local fastfood spot only to find themselves on a small chunk of pavement in the drift because they drew the short straw on where the grabbed land came from. Especially if they're a non-spacefaring society that doesn't know about it.
Dunno if the Drift sometimes takes random chunks of the material plane..
Still, other than the Drift and a few high tech based outsiders that is added from in APs or Bestiaries, all the planar fluff from Pathfinder 1e is still valid and useful.
I always ponder some poor sap going to work at the local fastfood spot only to find themselves on a small chunk of pavement in the drift because they drew the short straw on where the grabbed land came from. Especially if they're a non-spacefaring society that doesn't know about it.
Right? Like there's a Burger joint in the Feywild that gets sucked into space. That's gotta suck.
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I always ponder some poor sap going to work at the local fastfood spot only to find themselves on a small chunk of pavement in the drift because they drew the short straw on where the grabbed land came from. Especially if they're a non-spacefaring society that doesn't know about it.Right? Like there's a Burger joint in the Feywild that gets sucked into space. That's gotta suck.
Sounds like First World problems to me.
There's a Starfinder Society scenario that certainly seems to include little chunks of the Material plane floating around in the Drift.
A rather grizzly thought occurs to me; we know the chunks of the planes it takes occasionally have sentient beings on them. I'm curious if it could take just a person, or more gruesomely, part of a person. Like, someone randomly drops dead on the side walk & an autopsy reveals a vital organ (or sizable chunk of same) is just gone, meanwhile a ship flying through the drift has a humanoid heart just splatter on it's hull.
Aren't I just sunshine & rainbows today.
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Sounds like First World problems to me.I always ponder some poor sap going to work at the local fastfood spot only to find themselves on a small chunk of pavement in the drift because they drew the short straw on where the grabbed land came from. Especially if they're a non-spacefaring society that doesn't know about it.Right? Like there's a Burger joint in the Feywild that gets sucked into space. That's gotta suck.
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