mythic eldritch heritage and robe of arcane heritage

[Mister F]

I have seen some discussions about using robe of arcane heritage with eldritch heritage, but none with mythic eldritch heritage. If you have mythic eldritch heritage, does the robe allow to obtain new powers at earlier level/? LIke, level 9 power at 7th level.

Also, what if you combine mythic eldritch heritage with variant multiclass sorcerer and robe of arcane heritage? Would you have a lot of megapowers?

[LordKailas]

There seem to be two interpretations about if the robe interacts with the feat eldritch heritage.

One group says no and the other says yes. If the robe doesn't work with the base feat then it wouldn't work with the mythic feat either. Since any argument against the normal feat would be applicable for the mythic feat.

If you're working with the assumption that the the robes do work with the feat then I see no reason they wouldn't also work with the mythic feat. Since any arguments that one might make about it working with the normal feat would be applicable for the mythic feat as well.

As for your follow up question.

sure, you would have a bunch of powers. but the robes have little do to with that. It's because you're combining the mythic feat with VMC that's causing you to have "lots of megapowers".

[Mister F]

well, but the bunch of powers would be stronger with the robe. Not only that, the robe would allow me sometimes to have 2 extra powers at earlier level.

The discussion about eldritch heritage is that the normal feat only allows to obtain one power, thus, in that case the robe empowers that power but doesnt allow to recieve extra powers. Mythic eldritch heritage is different. I think the robe would allow to obtain extra powers with mythic eldritch heritage.

[Thedmstrikes]

Some relevant quotes:

Eldritch Heritage wrote:

Benefit: Select one sorcerer bloodline. You must have Skill focus in the class skill that bloodline grants to a sorcerer at 1st level (for example, Heal for the celestial bloodline). This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have. You gain the first-level bloodline power for the selected bloodline. For purposes of using that power, treat your sorcerer level as equal to your character level – 2, even if you have levels in sorcerer. You do not gain any of the other bloodline abilities.

Mythic Eldritch Heritage wrote:

Benefit: You gain sorcerer bloodline powers of the bloodline tied to Eldritch Heritage as if your sorcerer level were your character level – 2. For that bloodline‘s 1st-level bloodline power, use your full character level to determine its effect; for all other bloodline powers, treat your sorcerer level as your character level – 2.

Robe of Arcane Heritage wrote:

These elegant, dark purple robes are usually decorated with gold stitching suggesting a particular sorcerer bloodline, though some might indicate a family tree. When a sorcerer dons a robe of arcane heritage, the stitching pulls itself apart and reweaves to match her particular sorcerer bloodline. The wearer treats her sorcerer level as 4 higher than normal for the purpose of determining what bloodline powers she can use and their effects.

1) the robe requires a sorcerer bloodline to work; it assumes there is a single bloodline in effect by the way it is written.

2) heritage grants an additional bloodline which is different from the primary bloodline the sorcerer already has, but only applies to the base bloodline power and it is given a penalty in level equivalency.
3) mythic augments this to reduce the penalty for the original feat to nothing and grants additional abilities at the penalized level.

If your DM allows the robe to augment all bloodlines granted, it would give a net increase of two levels for the secondary bloodline/mythic increase, not 4 (although with the mythic option the base secondary bloodline power will be equal to the increase of the primary bloodline at +4). Because of the way the magic item is written, it can be argued for either point of view and table variance will apply. On the VMC chart, the robe will effectively grant you access to the next bloodline power in sequence and will grant no additional powers after level 15. If the robe is allowed to also augment a secondary bloodline, access to the same level of secondary bloodline powers will occur two levels later than the primary power sequence tapping out at level 17.

[Chell Raighn]

There is honestly no reason why it shouldn’t.

Eldritch Heritage grants you a Sorcerer Bloodline with an effective Sorcerer Level. It only grants 1 power per feat spent on the feat chain tough.

VMC Sorcerer grants a Sorcerer Bloodline with effective Sorcerer Level, but prevents ever getting the 20th level power.

Robe of Arcane Heritage increases your Effective Sorcerer Level by 4.

Mythic Eldritch Heritage grants all Bloodline powers to your Eldritch Heritage Bloodline based on your effective Sorcerer level.

At no point do the rules for any of these conflict. The closest they come is the robe attempting to grant powers that Eldritch Heritage or VMC don’t grant, but that is resolved by “I do not get X at X level, so I don’t get this.” You still get the effective level increases just not the restricted powers.

With Mythic Eldritch Heritage those restrictions don’t exist anymore thus, the robe works at full strength {4+(Level-2)]} to determine both the strength of tour powers and which powers you have access to.

It’s not like the other age old argument if does the robe effect Bloodrager Bloodlines or not...