New Ancestries for Advanced Player's Guide?


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I'm sorry if this is off topic for this playtest but does anyone know if this manual will include new Ancestries?


Which manual? Playtest is classes only


The book will have more ancestries in it. When they announced it they mentioned that Aasimar, Catfolk, Changelings, Duskwalkers, Dhampirs, Kobolds, Orcs, Ratfolk, Tieflings, and Tengu would be in it. Some of these might be heritages you can apply to any ancestry instead of ancestries unto themselves though.

IIRC these are most of the "other ancestries" mentioned in the Lost Omens Character Guide which didn't have mechanics attached. Minus the ones that are best-suited for a location specific book, since they really are localized to one place (Androids, Anadi, Locathahs, etc.) So if they decide to add more than those 8, they'll probably pick from the other ancestries in that chapter.


Sigh. Does that mean there will be no Azlanti, Androffan and serpentfolk ancestries in Pathfinder Advanced Player's Guide?


James Jacobs has come out and said that Azlanti is just a kind of human. So you can already play one!


At least there will be Azlanti and Androffan heritages, perhaps? I really wish Paizo would make the serpentfolk ancestry someday, though.


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It seems like all the "we find these people in significant numbers only in this particular part of the world" ancestries are best suited for Lost Omens books about that particular region. Like if you're going to have an Azlanti heritage, you put that in the book that takes a deep dive on New Thassilon, if you're going to do a Strix ancestry you put that in the Cheliax book, the Tritons are going to have to wait for the High Seas book, etc.

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Aenigma wrote:
At least there will be Azlanti and Androffan heritages, perhaps? I really wish Paizo would make the serpentfolk ancestry someday, though.

This isn't generally how Heritages work. Note that there isn't a 'Vudran' or 'Ulfen' Heritage either. Heritage is inherent, but it's not really tied to ethnicity. That way lie serious unfortunate implications.


Azlanti could be a heritage (or two) just because the only Azlanti running around on Golarion are Time-Displaced or Gillpeople. But the time-displaced one would apply to both Azlanti and Thassilonians (who are basically the same people, just with cultural differences.)


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To roughly paraphrase what was mentioned elsewhere was this concept of 'If there is an Azlanti hertiage' then it leads to very disturbing thoughts about eugenics and 'one true ethnicity' (particularly when ALL the players start taking it because best ethnicity).

To prevent that tangle, they just got rid of the uber-mechanical benefit that the Azlanti had in 1e.

Blame time-travel radiation or whatever...


I blame sanity. They've got too many real world human 'heritages' to go that route. I'm glad they didn't.


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"Time-displaced Human" could be a Heritage though. That would pretty much cover all the Azlanti, and anybody else who ended up rocketed forwards in time.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
"Time-displaced Human" could be a Heritage though. That would pretty much cover all the Azlanti, and anybody else who ended up rocketed forwards in time.

..or backwards.

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PossibleCabbage wrote:
"Time-displaced Human" could be a Heritage though. That would pretty much cover all the Azlanti, and anybody else who ended up rocketed forwards in time.

That's already a background.

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Regional based Ancestry Feats and Backgrounds are already in the Lost Omens books.


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If your question was whether or not they're going to add a race or heritage that has a boost to every attribute and no flaws, then the answer to that is no.

Otherwise Azlanti are just Humans with an ethnicity of Azlanti.

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