The spell says you have hands and can take manipulate actions. Most dragons can talk though, last I checked, so can you talk in dragon form too? If so, since you have hands for somatic components and a voice for verbal components, can you also cast your spells while in dragon form?
Seeing as dragons are dragons are intelligent creatures capable of speaking and casting spells, it would seem odd if the spell arbitrarily denied a spellcaster that ability.
Was it deliberately omitted so that GMs can decide for themselves what is best for their tables?
Any clarification would be appreciated.
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Polymorph trait, battle forms, page 301 (you can't cast spells unless the battle form says you can).
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So what is a "battle form" exactly? The term didn't seem to be defined anywhere that I could find.
What is a non battle form and how does it differ?
Could I turn into a dragon and talk and cast spells, provided I'm not in combat?
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"Calling upon powerful transformative magic, you gain a Large dragon battle form."
See the spell, Dragon Form. It says you can take the Manipulate action only, and gain a breath weapon and some other things; nothing about speaking or casting spells.
I believe you can still take sustain actions on spells you cast before you polymorphed, but that's about the extent of it. I think you might be able to trigger the manipulate action that some sustain spells have (Storm Lord is the one I've looked at) since that's only a manipulate action, which Drragon Form allows I think. But nothing about Dragon Form overrides the basic no-spellcasting battle form limitation.
So are there now, or will there be in the future, non battle polymorph forms???
Also, do I get my weapon specialization (unarmed) bonus to my dragon battle form's natural attack damage rolls?
So are there now, or will there be in the future, non battle polymorph forms???
Humanoid Form. Pest Form.
So are there now, or will there be in the future, non battle polymorph forms???Humanoid Form. Pest Form.
Alright, so how do they differ? Can I talk and cast spells in those forms since the polymorph rules seem to only apply those limitations to battle forms?
Or is it just a meaningless tag that does nothing now, but might be referenced by rules in the future? (And if that's the case, why isn't it a formal trait like all the rest?)
Actually the Pest Form spell forces you into a ‘Battle-Form’ of a tiny creature. For Humanoid form since it doesn’t say you take on a ‘battle-form’ my understanding is that you can cast spells and use items like normal. Same would apply with Enlarge and Shrink i would imagine.
Alright, so how do they differ?
Neither gives you anything directly combat related [ac, attacks, ect]: IMO, that makes them non-combat forms. Once the form give you something useful in combat, you forget how to talk and cast spells cuz... Most likely the same reason it take 2 seconds to regrip a weapon but 0 seconds to draw and nock an arrow.
PS: ah, pumpkinhead is right, pest form DOES give a battle form as it gives out AC. That's what I get for relying on memory.
