Two players LF GM and more players for Ironfang Invasion


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My buddy Almonihah and I are looking for a GM and group to run/play in Ironfang Invasion.

I've been briefly skimming through the AP for my IRL Broken Golarion game(in which all but a handful of APs have failed) and it seems really freakin awesome!

While I would be absolutely willing to play with any set of character creation rules, I do have several preferred rules. However, none of these are by any means necessary for me to play:

Gestalt
Feat at every level
and the feat tax rule.

Also, Almonihah would like to play an awakened animal, if at all possible.

Finally, not only do I want to play the AP all the way through, but I would dearly love to take on some of the challenges in the 'continuing the adventure section' of the final volume, assuming we survive! lol

Edit:

I would also like it if 3pp material was allowed, but since I know a lot of GMs aren't fond of 3pp, it's totally not a deal breaker if a perspective GM doesn't want to allow 3pp.


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Yes, I of course want to play an awakened animal. :D I've thought that Ironfang Invasion would be the perfect AP for such a character, given its wilderness focus.


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I'd love to hop in as a player if you'd have me!


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Sounds like it'd be a fascinating game.

Silver Crusade

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I might be up to trying my hand at running this. I've ran it before into late book 2, so am a little experienced in that. However, this comes with a few things that need to be said.

1. I cannot promise that I can see it through, only that I will try to. If things go smoothly however, I can certainly see it being finished through.

2. It would likely be a slower game, with an update post about every other day. Though there may be areas where it picks up. ( I do try to keep combats moving quickly)

3. No 3PP. I really just wouldn't feel up to reading and learning it.

4. I have houserules that I would add to the game, for my sake. (as I play and (mostly) GM with them in my F2F game.)

5. I am not sold on the awakened animal. I would need to discuss this further with the player.

as an addendum, regarding your character creation rules-
Gestalt- I've been tinkering with a different version of this, that's slightly less powerful, but hopefully as interesting.
feat tax rules- Definitely
feat every level- I'm ok with this, but only on the grounds that these are mostly not combat or spell enhancing feats (such as metamagic or spell focus etc) or feats that are used to help build a unique character normally not playable.
So, feats I'd like to see being picked up from this bonus-
skill focus, toughness, things like deceitful, maybe a weapon proficiency, hellcat stealth, teamwork feats, Extra "X". etc.

Dark Archive

If it is decided that no 3pp will be allowed, I'd also toss my hat into the ring.

I completely agree with 100% of what rorek55 proposed.


If Rorek does run, I'd be interested. The proposed character creation rules (especially with additions) sound excellent.

Second a no 3PP vote though.


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@Almonihah always wants to play some crazy thing. It is one of the many awesome parts about him!


Monkeygod wrote:
I would also like it if 3pp material was allowed, but since I know a lot of GMs aren't fond of 3pp, it's totally not a deal breaker if a perspective GM doesn't want to allow 3pp.

Any 3pp in particular you're looking for?


Count me as interested in playing!


YoricksRequiem wrote:
Monkeygod wrote:
I would also like it if 3pp material was allowed, but since I know a lot of GMs aren't fond of 3pp, it's totally not a deal breaker if a perspective GM doesn't want to allow 3pp.
Any 3pp in particular you're looking for?

I would really like to play the Valkyrie race from that book, which I have and am more than willing to had over to you for reading! I have an idea for a ranger that was killing in battle by hobgoblins.


GM Mowque wrote:
@Almonihah always wants to play some crazy thing. It is one of the many awesome parts about him!

Why thank you. :D

I *am* a bit of a xenofiction fan, so I tend towards the less humanoid characters whenever possible.


YoricksRequiem wrote:
Monkeygod wrote:
I would also like it if 3pp material was allowed, but since I know a lot of GMs aren't fond of 3pp, it's totally not a deal breaker if a perspective GM doesn't want to allow 3pp.
Any 3pp in particular you're looking for?

For myself, my build is mostly Paizo(I say mostly just cuz there might be feats or spells that aren't). My current plan is playing a a ranger(unsure on archetype) and I *might* take a PrC.

However, I know that a lot of players enjoy 3pp(and I do as well, if not necessarily for this specific concept) so I thought I would include asking for them.


Not to mention it's hard to find a way to play an awakened animal in Paizo publications. :D


It is hard to find a way to play many ideas in Paizo publications. So I totally understand that feeling Almonihah. Oh her have you ever heard of the YouTuber Dingo Doodles?


Oh I'd definitely be interested in the AP. Anything with some extra latitude is just a bonus. So yeah, love to toss my hat in on this. Lots of pathfinder experience, but not a lot of it with APs. Some exceptions, but yeah.

Silver Crusade

If my "demands" heheh, are good with folk, I'll see about setting up a recruitment thread to get the ball going. Almonihah, please PM your reasons for wanting to play an awakened animal, and how you see if working in the game etc.


rorek55 wrote:
If my "demands" heheh, are good with folk, I'll see about setting up a recruitment thread to get the ball going. Almonihah, please PM your reasons for wanting to play an awakened animal, and how you see if working in the game etc.

Woohoo! Looking forward to it.


rorek55 wrote:

as an addendum, regarding your character creation rules-
Gestalt- I've been tinkering with a different version of this, that's slightly less powerful, but hopefully as interesting.
feat tax rules- Definitely
feat every level- I'm ok with this, but only on the grounds that these are mostly not combat or spell enhancing feats (such as metamagic or spell focus etc) or feats that are used to help build a unique character normally not playable.
So, feats I'd like to see being picked up from this bonus-
skill focus, toughness, things like deceitful, maybe a weapon proficiency, hellcat stealth, teamwork feats, Extra "X". etc.

1) That's 100% fair, and I appreciate your honesty.

2) I am definitely okay with a slower game. I'm working on a fairly involved homebrew Golarion setting for an IRL game that's going to be starting soon, but it's going to take a lot of time to get set up.

3) As I said above, my desire for 3pp is mostly for other players, though there might be spells or feats that are 3pp that I might desire. I mostly don't need 3pp material.

4) I am super curious about your houserules!

I'm totally okay with the feats addendum. I usually do something similar like that for my own games(I call them background feats, lol)

Also really curious about your version of 'gestalt'. I doubt I'll have a problem with it, but let's see what you're proposing before I 'give in' to your demands, lol


I am also okay with most of your rules, or demands. As I stated the only 3rd party thing I wanted was the Valkyrie race but I can work around that!


I'd really like this one as well.

Basic idea is for a goblin whose hatred of Hobgoblins caused him to overcome his superstition around writing, or at least find a workaround. He'd be a Wizard(an archetype that dumps Scribe Scroll, writing is serious business) and Living Grimoire Inquisitor. I mean, what better way to kill hobs than with the thing they hate and fear most?

Silver Crusade

the basic idea for my gestalt is for you to pick one of the following-
Fighter, Rogue, or cavalier, and gestalt that class with one of your choosing.

In other words, you would be required to pick from those 3 to go along with your primary class. (this does not stop you from doing a rogue/fighter or rogue/cavalier) Its just a way for me to "limit" some of the potential ridiculousness of gestalt (one of them being unmonk/sorcerer. Which is a terrifying self-buffing monster that I love, but that level of power is better reserved for different APs IMO.)


rorek55 wrote:

the basic idea for my gestalt is for you to pick one of the following-

Fighter, Rogue, or cavalier, and gestalt that class with one of your choosing.

In other words, you would be required to pick from those 3 to go along with your primary class. (this does not stop you from doing a rogue/fighter or rogue/cavalier) Its just a way for me to "limit" some of the potential ridiculousness of gestalt (one of them being unmonk/sorcerer. Which is a terrifying self-buffing monster that I love, but that level of power is better reserved for different APs IMO.)

That sounds like a neat system! Would you allow PrCs in the gestalt primary class 'slot'? Would you allow someone to switch between levels in different non-primary gestalt classes?

Silver Crusade

For the sake of it, your gestalt class cannot be modified, (for now), if you want a PRC, or desire to multiclass, you must use levels from your "primary" class. This may change later on, but for now, its the easiest solution. Think of your gestalt class as "freebie" stats/abilities.


I'll put my thoughts together and PM you, probably this evening.


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I might be interested in making some kind of thief/assassin/slayer kind of a character.

A few questions guv'ner:

Would you allow a wererat character?

I'm imagining an Unchained Rogue/Slayer human or an Unchained Rogue/Vivesectionist Alchemist or some variety of Investigator. I would want to confirm you'll let me stack sneak attacks for this build, and would also appreciate clarification whether studied strike and sneak attack could stack.

Can we be evil? I'm thinking lawful evil. If not, neutral.

I'd be interested in being the sneaky melee, skill monkey, and trapfinder if no one else is going to occupy that role.

Thank ye kindly.

Silver Crusade

the AP wouldn't really do well with "evil" characters. So, it would be a no go on that.

Also, why a wererat? Would a ratfolk character not be enough?


I don't want to be a humanoid rat 100% of the time -- I want to be a human that has a rat alternative form.


If you're totally against that -- the other kind of character I like to play is a bard buffer. I'd like to do something like a marshal build with cavalier and bard then.

Can I use 3.5 bard prestige classes and stuff if I go that direction?

I basically only play some kind of skill monkey/ard or rogue character whenever I want to play.

My idea for the bard would be kind of a blonde hair/blue eyed hunk and audacious flirt who was also really sassy.

I'd also want to verify I could use this prestige class: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/apg/battle-herald/


Have you considered Shifter? Grow into the ability?

I admit curiosity on the full set of rules. For the AP in question, and the rules already provided, I'm thinking Druid/Unchained Rogue or Shifter/Unchained Rogue. The other concepts that crossed my mind all fail on the Cavalier/Fighter/Rogue requirement. <shrug>

Maybe a Bard/Fighter?

Not sure.


If someone else is going to do the fighting rouge, I'd do a build like this moving towards battle herald -- obviously gestalt would change some details. The character would also be 1/2 Tian-Xia in origins:

Quote:

PARAGON MARSHAL - Charlemagne-Class
Strategist Cavalier 1 / (Sensei 1/Bard 1/Evangelist 1) / Holy Tactician Paladin 3 / Battle Herald

This is a pretty serious departure from the other builds, but ends up being deceptively nasty. By dipping only 1 level deep into both Cavalier and your second class, you leave three levels open before you can enter Battle Herald. And it just so happens that not only does Paladin fit by virtue of being a full-BAB Martial, it also has a cute little Archetype called Holy Tactician that plays extremely well into the build.

The first-level ability, Weal's Champion, adds a small bit of Smite-like damage, but the kicker is the third level abilities - one grants a bonus Teamwork Feat, and the second, Battlefield Presence, is not-Tactician; you take a Standard Action and grant every Ally in a 30ft. radius one Teamwork Feat you know, AND you may switch it as a Swift Action. This doesn't have a daily limit nor duration, either. While this doesn't progress with Battle Herald, sadly, it's more than worth the 3-level wade into Paladin territory to make such a useful commander.

Liberty's Edge

I'm very interested in playing if there's space.

Can I make a elf ranger fighter archer? Nothing weird. No 3rd party stuff. Just Paizo books.

I've run books 1 and 2 but I've been dying to play.


I have a few ideas bouncing around in my head regarding possible characters, but I am going to wait until the official recruitment thread is posted. Rorek55, thank you so much for being willing to run this game. I look forward to submitting a character.

Silver Crusade

Here is the recruitment thread. Please follow the build rules there, and make your character.

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