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Joel,
What does the Rock know about Marvel? I mean I get he's Black Adam...but I didn't think DC and Marvel stars mixed that much.
He's the voice of Groot (so is one of the few DC/Marvel crossover actors), and mentioned that James Gunn is his source on the Guardians being in Thor (at least some of them).
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Uh the rock is not the voice of Groot. Ven diesel is.
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Q: dear Marvel-savvy people, when is the next new Marvel offering on Disney+? I've had that thing for a while now and since the Mandalorian is done, I don't want to keep this subscription idle if say, new Marvel stuff isn't starting until the Fall or 2021... thanks!Both Falcon and Winter Soldier and Wandavision are coming 2nd half of 2020 (August and December). (and new season of Clone Wars is playing now)
Thanks a lot! Cancellorino! :)
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I don't watch the fast and furious franchise so they don't blend together as much for me.
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Isn't Apocalypse older than Selene though?
(Albeit, not by much...)Also, isn't the existence of mutants ultimately due to the Celestials who placed the potential for it in the human genome (which'd account for the rare ancient mutant) & that the background radiation of the modern age jump-started the surge of mutations we see now?
Oh, also, time travel shenanigans somewhere... <shrug?>
Carry on, I guess,
--C.
Apocalypse Comes from Ancient Egypt. Selene was around during Conans time as shown in the classic storyline in that she met her old rival Kulan Gath as he remade New York to a Version of his time.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selene_(comics)][/url]
I think part of the reason was simply that Radiation was no longer the simple solution like in the 60, so they added the Celestials manipulating the Genome again.
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I don't really know where they're going with She-Hulk, but for a good part of her comics career she was She-Hulk full time, rather than switching back and forth. If they took that route, which I'd like, you'd want to have an actress who looked as much the muscled amazon as possible. Use CGI like they did for pre-muscles Steve in the origin sequence and flashbacks.Can you really get someone who can look the part of both a weak, mousey person AND a muscled amazon?Well, Jen was, at first at least, a bit of a dormouse, which is why the outgoing, gregarious She-Hulk was such a difference, size and strength aside.
Since the Disney+ shows are supposed to have movie-level budget, having an actress that looks the part of pre-gamma Jen, with a giant cgi She-Hulk, would be excellent. Obviously, the actress would need to be able to ACT the part of both, but not have to look like she could be She-Hulk.
Though I'd rather have the green lawyer She-Hulk.
Always my favorite version of the character. Start with an actress who can look the part and just use the CGI to scale her up a bit. And to go green of course.
She-Hulk was generally proportionally more human-looking than Hulk.Yes. Her name is Alison Brie. Check out GLOW if you haven't. Besides, check out GLOW anyway because it's insane.
Besides if they can fold Ruffalo's looks well into 8 foot tall Hulk, they can make CGI She-Hulk with Brie's features (or any other appropriate actress) just fine.
They're going to do an origin story, which means we are going to be seeing human Jennifer a good deal, and she needs to look like an ordinary person. You don't need a muscular person to make a muscular CGI (although Alison Brie can and has built muscle, she's just overall a relatively small person). That's not how it works.
Steve is different because Cap is still a normal human size and shape, so his "superhero form" doesn't need to be CGI. Plus in some scenes what they did with Skinny Steve frankly looked awful. It's clear in some scenes Chris Evans' head is being pasted onto someone else's body, and then there's that scene in the car with Steve and Peggy where alternately he looks like a child (not just a short, grown man) and Peggy looks like Attack of the 50 Foot Woman.
Further what they are capable of with CGI has expanded dramatically since TFA. If you look at Hulk in Avengers vs Hulk in Endgame, they can make far more convincing CGI . And She-Hulk may not always be as bulky as Hulk (though she can be), she is still at least 7 feet tall and frikkin' enormous. She-Hulk's proportions just aren't human no matter how much you want to think of them as. They are going to have to CGI build her body from the ground up no matter what to make it look right.
You need to cast Jennifer Walters for the role, not She-Hulk.
Yeah the older only 6'7 she-hulk that if she wasn't green could be mistaken for a real fit and tall female woman vrs the current which looks pretty well like hulk. Depends on which one we get.
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Well, Jen was, at first at least, a bit of a dormouse, which is why the outgoing, gregarious She-Hulk was such a difference, size and strength aside.
Since the Disney+ shows are supposed to have movie-level budget, having an actress that looks the part of pre-gamma Jen, with a giant cgi She-Hulk, would be excellent. Obviously, the actress would need to be able to ACT the part of both, but not have to look like she could be She-Hulk.
Though I'd rather have the green lawyer She-Hulk.
Always my favorite version of the character. Start with an actress who can look the part and just use the CGI to scale her up a bit. And to go green of course.
She-Hulk was generally proportionally more human-looking than Hulk.
Savage She-Hulk started out being very different personality when she was angry.
Immersion in the Fountain of Youth while in the form of She-Hulk calmed her down and Jennifer could remember what happened while hulked out.Eventually Jennifer had total control of her transformation (I think that happened when the writers decided to have her become an Avenger).
She was stuck for a while in She-Hulk form after being irradiated while shutting down a run-away nuclear reactor (on a SHIELD helicarrier if I remember correctly), that was why she was Lawyer She-Hulk.
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No doubt connected to Immortal Hulk.
I keep losing track, but Jen had lost control of She-Hulk, due to grief issues, in short. She eventually dealt with her issues in a rare case of a superhero needing therapy actually seeking it out, and it working, so she's regained control.
Jen basically has three forms -- Jennifer, Jennifer/She-Hulk hybrid, Savage She-Hulk. Ordinary human, a "halfway hulk" that is green and very tall and muscular and an in-control more confident version of herself, full on superbulky Hulk form. Even if she has full control of herself at all times, she will still more fully "Hulk out" if circumstances arise or she is very angry.
This is all the more reason you need a good CGI version of the She-Hulk body because it needs to be able to transform organically. They did this in fact to an extent with Hulk in Endgame... Professor Hulk, while huge, is a little smaller and has far more distinctly Banner-like facial features. 2012 Hulk--even in Endgame--is larger and more bestial looking.
Since the series will show her origins, and I expect she will probably have to learn a bit how to control herself, we'll probably see all permutations a fair amount.
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I don't remember the Fountain of Youth thing, but I think it was well before her time as Avenger that she not only had control, but was spending basically all her time in She-Hulk form. She didn't really care when she was stuck that way, since she preferred it already.
More recently she was shifting back and forth again and She-Hulk's been ragey and out of control. Not sure what really led to that.
The Fountain thing was early in the comic, written by David Kraft.
++Stan Lee created She-Hulk and wrote the origin issue. He wanted her to be the female version of Hulk (like Bionic Woman was to Six Million Dollar Man).Kraft wrote the rest of the initial 25 comic run. I don't think he liked her being so angry. The comic was canceled about the same time she joined the Avengers.
She-Hulk joined the Fantastic Four after the first Secret Wars, filling in for The Thing. It was while a member of the FF that she got stuck as She-Hulk (written by John Byrne).
++She later finds out her inability to transform back was all psychological because she preferred being She-Hulk over Jennifer Walters.
Her recent anger issues were due to a beating she took from Thanos during the second Civil War and the "death" of Bruce at the hands of Hawkeye.
++From Wikipedia. (Everything else is from reading.)
At least you can cite your sources, Charles.
As for She-hulk's current form, there's something that Jason Aaron's doing mostly because a) Hulk is doing his own thing thank to Al Ewing's great writing and better understanding of Hulk than some others.. and b) I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the Avengers stories going forward in which they had to fight Celestials infected by the Horde and there was the brief thing where Daredevil had Heimdall's sight.
IN ANY CASE! What I think we need to focus on is this: Will Falcon truly take up Cap's shield or will it remain unwielded? Also with Wandavision, I'm hopeful that Monica Rambeau isn't a side note character.
I think a different kind of space shark...Also I thought the Acani were more akin to whales than sharks....
Frog Thor plz.
I'm totally down for Throg, especially if it coincides with Jane Foster being the new Mighty Thor. :)
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Marvel Terminates Pair of Showrunner Overall Deals
Not surprising, I suppose. Given all the insanity going on.
I'll just wait and see what this means further into 2020... and beyond.
You know it's bad when my main activity in Netflix is now Star Trek Voyager and Deep Space Nine.
PDK,
I dunno about that. Before this, I would watch TNG a lot. And some Voyager when it was on TV.
Love Star Trek! however it's a daunting commitment to re-watch with the sheer number of episodes.
Voy and DS9 now... watching them in parallel i.e. Season 1, Season 1, Season 2, Season 2, ...
AgreedThis should be about Marvel ...
I don't know... should it? not much happening at Marvel right now... other than this thread uniting us under our nostalgic love of old 70s through 90s Marvel Comics... :P
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True ... but threads really should stick to their topics. If there’s nothing new going on at the moment, then I guess my question is why do folks feel the need to post at all in the thread? There are plenty of other threads here to post in, why not just let threads about a specific topic remain about that topic?
It’s pretty frustrating to see that there are multiple new posts in a thread you are interested in so you click in to read them, only to find that none of them have anything to do with the topic.
Don’t get me wrong - I LOVE Star Trek, and would love to discuss all the different shows at length, but not in a thread about Marvel.
Maybe that’s just me?
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Drifting in the never! :)
Also Thanos wins.
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I guess their is less specific threads made where you can just talk about anything comic related.
Something like that Vid. Plus right now we're still waiting on middle of Summer before we'd see anything REMOTELY Phase 4 worthy. At least with Falcon and Winter Soldier anyway...
PDK,
\m/ *thrashes*
'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus
Interesting......
He was a good Doc Ock. Also, I had no idea about Jamie Foxx. The Wikipedia page for this movie also confirms something that Jamie Foxx hints at that was mentioned in this article. I'm not going to go into detail about it for those who like to avoid spoilers.
We'll see if this all holds up. But so far, it looks like Spider-man 3 is "Into the Spiderverse"...kind of.
'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus
Interesting......
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If I were a wealthy man.
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We'll see if this all holds up. But so far, it looks like Spider-man 3 is "Into the Spiderverse"...kind of.And possibly set up by Doctor Strange into the Multiverse of Madness.Possibly:
WandaVision - Wanda "breaks" the barriers between universes
Doctor Strange 2 - Strange and Wanda have to "fix" them
Spider-Man 3 - Peter dealing with the fall-out of the break and fix
I'd guess that Strange and Wanda fixing them averts catastrophe, but forever weakens/reveals the boundaries between universes, which allows easier travel between them, which then sets up Spiderman 3. I don't see MCU opening up the multiverse only to "fix" it closed again. There's lots of options they can plumb for a while (not to mention a handy built in way to explain re-casting characters as needed when actors contracts are up, or unfortunately pass away as Chadwick Boseman did. Need a new iron man now that RDJ is done? - there's always another from another Earth to pull in if needed.)
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Disney's investor event today announced a giant amount of stuff, including:
Additional shows coming to Disney+:
“Secret Invasion” starring Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelsohn, which Feige billed as “the biggest crossover comic event of the last 20 years,” which is saying something from the man who produced “Avengers: Endgame.”
“Ironheart,” an “Iron Man” spin-off series focusing on inventor Riri Williams, as played by Dominique Thorne (“If Beale Street Could Talk”).
“Armor Wars,” based on the 1980s comic book series about what happens when Tony Stark’s technology falls into the wrong hands, starring Don Cheadle as War Machine.
“The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special,” which writer-director James Gunn will shoot while making “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.”
As well as new details on the movie side of things:
Feige announced that Jon Watts, the director who steered Tom Holland’s “Spider-Man” reboot with “Homecoming” and “Far From Home,” is slated to lead a Fantastic Four movie.
Christian Bale will finally make a Marvel movie, as the actor’s role as villain Gorr the Godbutcher in “Thor: Love and Thunder” was confirmed.
“Ms. Marvel” star Iman Vellani and “Wandavision’s” Teyonah Parris (the adult version of Monica Rambeau, who appeared as a child in 2019’s “Captain Marvel”), will both join Brie Larson in “Captain Marvel 2.”
Feige also gave fans an update on the long-awaited “Ant-Man 3,” announcing the film’s official title “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.” Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer will return for the Peyton Reed-directed film, while Kathryn Newton joins the cast as Cassie Lang. Variety confirmed in September that Jonathan Majors would join the Marvel Studios film, but Feige officially announced the actor will play the time-traveling super-villain Kang the Conquerer.