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I can't decide which one I'm most excited about but I am a big fan of Kamala Khan.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

I think WandaVision actually comes FROM Doctor Strange's adventures in the Multiverse, not precedes it. At least that's my read I could be wrong.

My thought is (based on a comment made by Mackie) that MAYBE USAgent might be a foil in the sense the US government wants a REAL Captain America. I mean that's how it worked in the comics for a while...

I'm just happy to have Uatu in SOME form myself.

What I want to for She-Hulk is part lawyer drama, part Desperate Housewives, with a mix of good ole fashion comic book stuff.

I'm pretty sure I read that Wandvision will end just before Doctor Strange MoM opens, and leads into Wanda's involvement with that movie.

Did see today that all of the D+ originals will be released episodically rather than all at once for binging.

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Did see today that all of the D+ originals will be released episodically rather than all at once for binging.

That would be excellent! I know the new thing seems to be the drop them all at once and then binge-watch, but I am MUCH more into the traditional one episode a week model.

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Marc Radle wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:


Did see today that all of the D+ originals will be released episodically rather than all at once for binging.
That would be excellent! I know the new thing seems to be the drop them all at once and then binge-watch, but I am MUCH more into the traditional one episode a week model.

I agree, I much prefer having water cooler talk about what happened in an episode and anticipating the next after cliffhangers. Also, I never binge fast enough, so have to avoid spoilers like crazy, while I can keep up with weekly releases much easier.


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MMC,

Firstly with regards to Sersi, I still think Jolie should be doing that and they cast someone else for Thena. But that's me. I'm cool with Kit doing Dane since it's not a huge stretch. And yeah the cast for Eternals is pretty large. I'm also wondering how much of a role Druig will be in this movie...or will it be some one else (or something else.)

I'm really not surprised Coogler is doing BP 2. I mean that's how we kept Gunn on Guardians right?

I'm sure the government will be a role...but the comments again show me that MAYBE even though Sam got the shield...even he's not ready to go on as Captain America JUST yet.

I was always super skeptical that Jolie would have a starring role. If you look at the casting patterns, Marvel almost entirely relies on established but not yet hugely popular actors (Pratt, Boseman, Larson). She strikes me more as filling an Anthony Hopkins/Michael Douglas role. I can't imagine she would want to sign up for a 9 picture deal or what have you that they probably are going for with the Harrington, Madden, or Chan.


MMC,

Maybe but then that seems like if they're going to keep her off screen for other pictures...might be a bit of a waste. But eh. I still rather she was Sersi and we get a new girl for Thena.

Also I agree with Joel and Marc, binge watching a season works when I have the time. But most of the time I don't. So this works better for me.

I still think I read that Doctor Strange's movie sets up WandaVision...but we'll see.

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MMCJawa wrote:
I was always super skeptical that Jolie would have a starring role. [SNIP]

That's a good point. I would much have preferred Jolie for Sersi, but by that logic, I much prefer Sersi to Thena, and if someone has to be only a bit player, and someone else a main character, I'd much rather it be Sersi (played by an actress who is likely far more available for extended / repeated use than Jolie), than Thena (who I don't mind being played by a bigger 'name' actress who may not be as available for even a three movie deal, and likely costs a lot more, to boot...).

I'm just drowning in all the stuff Marvel is putting out that I want to see! Good grief, talk about an embarassment of riches!


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Set,

Embarrassment? It's more of tsunami of riches!

Also I was wrong, WandaVision DOES setup Doctor Strange 2.

Secondly, I'd rather have Sersi as main character too...but I still think Jolie would be fine in that role.

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JoelF847 wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:


Did see today that all of the D+ originals will be released episodically rather than all at once for binging.
That would be excellent! I know the new thing seems to be the drop them all at once and then binge-watch, but I am MUCH more into the traditional one episode a week model.
I agree, I much prefer having water cooler talk about what happened in an episode and anticipating the next after cliffhangers. Also, I never binge fast enough, so have to avoid spoilers like crazy, while I can keep up with weekly releases much easier.

Yeah, the weekly episode is going to be a good thing, I think. Helps avoid spoilers. In addition, since they have so much new content that looks awesome, it might keep people from being overwhelmed.

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Don't know if Marvel caved to fan pressure or if they wanted to keep the suspense, but Gemma Chan has been announced as playing Sersi.
You may remember Gemma as playing Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel.


Charles,

I think it was more "Why isn't Sersi in this movie??" and "Why can't Jolie play her instead of Thena??" At least that's my take...

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‘The Falcon And The Winter Soldier’ Will Address The Reaction To A Black Captain America

Interesting.

From a personal point of view, I never had a problem with it in the comics (although I wasn't collecting much Marvel at the time). It made sense to me, since Sam (as a character) had been around since before I was born, and had been considered Cap's long time friend and partner.

In the MCU, however, I do have a problem with it, but only in how they go about doing it. I thought Steve going to the past and staying there was incredibly poorly written and stupid. It would have made more sense had he let Peggy live the happy life she had, while retiring to a nice cabin in the woods with Sharon, thereby avoiding further disruptions to the space/time continuum.


A-zombie,

I doubt if he retired in the present he would have been happy since it was kind of...forced I felt with Sharon. Maybe. I dunno. Besides disruptions in the space/time continuum allow for the possibility we get multiple time lines crashing into each other! ;)

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‘The Falcon And The Winter Soldier’ Will Address The Reaction To A Black Captain America

Interesting.

From a personal point of view, I never had a problem with it in the comics (although I wasn't collecting much Marvel at the time). It made sense to me, since Sam (as a character) had been around since before I was born, and had been considered Cap's long time friend and partner.

In the MCU, however, I do have a problem with it, but only in how they go about doing it. I thought Steve going to the past and staying there was incredibly poorly written and stupid. It would have made more sense had he let Peggy live the happy life she had, while retiring to a nice cabin in the woods with Sharon, thereby avoiding further disruptions to the space/time continuum.

He lived out his life in a different timeline and returned to this one to give Sam the shield. No disruptions.


Hama,

I think A-zombie just thinks that it's hard to imagine a world where Steve Rogers didn't keep doing heroic things... But eh.


I think he did he just did them in an alternate time line. He basically had the life he should of had if he hadn't got frozen. He just did them in a time line that we don't get to see.

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I like that explanantion, but to me it doesn't make as much sense. That he only showed back up again as an old man implies he lived to old age in that timeline, not an alternate one. Also, jumping through time in just one timeline is dangerous, adding in a second timeline AND moving back and forth would magnify that danger. Would Steve Rogers take that risk?

And, yes, that he would have gone back and not done....something....about Bucky, hydra, etc., would be uncharacteristic of him. Also, if we run with the assumption that this was the main timeline, and not an alternate one (which is my assumption), it would be uncharacteristic of him to disrupt the happy life he knew Peggy had eventually had.

OR....we can just chalk it all up to "That's comics, best if you don't think to deeply about it" and call it a day.

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Of course, this is (to me) a good reason why time travel stories should be avoided as much as possible. Lest we forget, they've already made the entire MCU an alternate timeline, by the implication that Iron Man snapped Thanos and his army out of existence, instead of just sending them back to the time they came from and erasing their memories.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
I think he did he just did them in an alternate time line. He basically had the life he should of had if he hadn't got frozen. He just did them in a time line that we don't get to see.

That's my feeling on that. The world where Cap showed up on Peggy's doorstep some brief time after he 'died' in the plane crash should have become *very different* over time. He's said himself, "I can't just sit back and let a situation go South Tony, I wish I could..."

Howard and Maria Stark were probably still alive, since Steve was waiting to intercept and capture the Winter Soldier (who SHIELD would then deprogram, and while it would probably take them longer than it took Shuri, they'd have a ten year head start...). Arnim Zola would not succeed in planting his 'beautiful parasite' in SHIELD, so if Hydra thrived in this timeline, it did so far away from the SHIELD that had Peggy (and her future-aware husband) watching out for them.

Pretty much anything Steve knew about probably went a bit differently, since he could nip it in the bud.

He didn't know everything, and might not have chosen to micro-manage everything, or even be able to do anything to affect certain events, such as those of the Thor movies, generally. (I don't think he really knew the exact details of how Stark became Iron Man, for instance, and while he clearly had read a SHIELD briefing on how Banner became the Hulk, he might have made the hard choice to let that play out as it did, if only because sparing Banner that fate might have only resulted in a world where it happened to someone less able, or willing, to restrain the Hulk's destructive impulses...)

It'd be an interesting AU to see explored, perhaps in a What If? or something. Undoubtedly at least once Cap would get burned by trying to 'fix' something, and something equally horrible, or worse!, happening instead.

He gets Banner reassigned away from New Mexico a week before the fateful accident, and some complete nutter becomes a much more rampage-y Hulk instead. He prevents Hydra from getting Loki's scepter, and Wanda and Pietro never become empowered, and Ultron never happens and Sokovia is spared, so no Zemo, but now there's no Wanda to help face down Thanos' forces or try to get rid of the Mind Stone... Etc.


I think their suits and the tech running their time jumps are attuned in some way to their own timeline, which is why when they go back in time and get the stones, they return to their own timeline, not one where the stones were gone. (Only after Steve got the stones back were those alternative timelines averted)

So, using the suit and Pym particles, Steve could jump from the alternative timeline where he lived his unfrozen life of heroics and with Peggy back to the main timeline.


All I know is time travel is wonky but it was clearly the best option they had when Thanos clearly won.


I actually think Endgame's time travel is simpler in the long run then The old back to the future method. Although it does make one wonder about things like Days of future past. (comic not movie F that movie.) I wonder if different methods of time travel could work differently. Say a method not using Pym tech maybe it could work like back to the future.

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In The Fantastic Four comic, the TVA (Temporal Variance Authority, I think that was their name) said that not all alterations to the past result in alternate timelines.
They said the timeline reshapes itself and the altered past becomes the current past and everyone remembers it that way.


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Time travel works as suits the needs of the story at hand.
And then may be retconned as needed for future stories - that includes changing how it worked in the previous time travel story.

Sorry, but we've got decades of clashing approaches in comics history already. No way to reconcile them all.


Look if we can get 2099 AND Days of Future Past along with King Thor, I don't see how we can complain if time travel doesn't always make sense.

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But....but...I'm old(-ish) and cranky. I like to complain. And time travel makes it easy to do.


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Well yes but so does clones, magic and parallel worlds... I mean not that it makes you complain but it's easy to complain about those things.


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wibbly-wobbly, timey wimey . . .


But sadly, no more John Hurt...


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But sadly, no more John Hurt...

Holy ####, John Hurt died! Like in January. Of 2017. He was the best part of Contact


I was just thinking he'd be a great Merlin...

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wibbly-wobbly, timey wimey . . .

Don't forget Jeremy Bearimy.


*facepalm* On the one hand the fact I should have guessed it was something involving the Good Place...shouldn't surprise me.

The other hand....gah.

Anyways...

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Basically, whenever someone jumps back in time, he jumps to a different timeline than this one, one that started later than our original timeline, and thus is in a different period thant our original timeline (OOT further in the text). So when Tony, Cap and Scott jumped back to 2012, they didn't jump back in time to their 2012 but to a different universe where it was 2012. And afterwards when Tony and Steve jumped to 1979, they jumped to yet another universe where it was 1979 at that time. Then, using the space-time GPS that Tony designed, they returned to their point of origin, or to OOT as it were.

What Steve did is the same, he jumped to an alternate universe where it was 1945, lived out a long and happy life with Peggy and jumped back to OOT after she passed away and nothing connected him with it anymore.


Considering time travel makes little sense at times, I'm going with Hama.

In the mean time I'm waiting to see if we get any promos for some of the Disney + shows.

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Robert Downey Jr. reprising Iron Man role for Marvel spinoff: report

Of course, if you read the article, it wouldn't exactly be reprising his original role, but reportedly an AI based on that role. I'm sure such a TV show would be someone's cup of tea. Not mine necessarily (I've seen too much of what Disney does with live-action teenage protagonists), but I'd at least be interested to see how much Downey Jr. is being paid.


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I watched endgame and I don't even remember what happened to Tony... did he die? must have snoozed through that part...

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I watched endgame and I don't even remember what happened to Tony... did he die? must have snoozed through that part...

I’m assuming that was supposed to be funny?


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Marc,

I didn't laugh.

Me I'm cool with having Riri on TV since she's like the third best mechanic engineer in the Marvel Comics. Plus that arc they're basing it off of is pretty sweet.


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Marc,

I didn't laugh.

Me I'm cool with having Riri on TV since she's like the third best mechanic engineer in the Marvel Comics. Plus that arc they're basing it off of is pretty sweet.

Stark then Doom then Riri? Wait where does Mr.fantastic fall in?


...and who the heck is Riri?!


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Marc,

I didn't laugh.

Me I'm cool with having Riri on TV since she's like the third best mechanic engineer in the Marvel Comics. Plus that arc they're basing it off of is pretty sweet.

Stark then Doom then Riri? Wait where does Mr.fantastic fall in?

And Forge! please stop ignoring Forge!


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I'll stop forgetting forge when he builds a machine that makes me stop forgetting about him!

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Reed is a scientist. Other than R.O.B.B.I.E., and Roberta, I don't remember him doing very much mechanical work.


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Looks like they're considering Hailee Steinfeld for Kate Bishop/Hawkeye.

She was great in Bumblebee.

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Looks like they're considering Hailee Steinfeld for Kate Bishop/Hawkeye.

She was great in Bumblebee.

Oh, that’s awesome!!


I liked her in the Edge of Seventeen too. But yeah she's be a great Kate Bishop/Hawkeye aka better Hawkeye.

Vid,

I never much considered Reed an engineer so much as a designer. I mean how else do you explain things like the Fant-static Car or not having the right shielding on a rocket? But basically I'd say yes, Stark first, then Doom, Riri, and while Forge CAN build stuff, he generally doesn't have much in the way of imagination. *looks at Cable's arm*

Now SAGE, the fact she helped build a completely working teleporter out of biological parts, she's in there.

PDK,

This is Riri She and Shuri have a nice rivalry going.


Though Reed is always building stuff. I think he just often doesn't get beyond the kind of hacked together prototype before either another crisis or another brilliant idea come up.


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PDK,

This is Riri She and Shuri have a nice rivalry going.

Thanks! is she the engineer we saw in Black Panther? oh and who is Shuri?


Charles Scholz wrote:

Reed is a scientist. Other than R.O.B.B.I.E., and Roberta, I don't remember him doing very much mechanical work.

Fantasticar guys! come one! Also he makes little things all the time.

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