With the Core and Curse of the Crimson Throne sets right around the corner, will those boxes be the same size as the previous ones, or will they be different, considering they're not expected to contain some 1200 cards when all is said and done?
While product images don't reflect/guarantee any differences or being the same, the current images on the store pages appear to be wider in one dimension than the other, instead of the square all the previous boxes are.
I'm just trying to plan ahead as to how I want to figure out the storage for everything once I pick it up next month.
The box(es) Are smaller.
Core is approx 450 cards & pawns & manuals
Crimson is approx 550 cards & pawns & manuals
i have a Pathfinder Treasure chest I am going to try and see if they fit into that
We know the boxes are smaller. They revealed this in one of the early Core Principles blog posts:
The Core Set will come in a 9"×12" box—that's just a little larger than the Pathfinder RPG Beginner Box—that holds your cards, dice, pawns (more on that later), and rulebooks. And Curse will be even smaller than that: 7.5"×9"—just a bit bigger than the Pathfinder RPG Pocket Edition. And all of Curse will be in that box—no more individual adventure boxes, and no more five-month delays between the first part and the last.
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Thanks for all the info.
I've been away from the forums for quite some time, so I must have missed that in my catch-up through some of the posts.
Seems like I might end up having to carry around both boxes when I get to playing through Curse, which is unfortunate.
Thanks for the update, Vic. I had actually seen the post that had the box preview, and commented there about the box reveal, as well.
I'd say core and three more expansions would fit (possibly sleeved as well.)
Love the new box design and the dividers!!
Vic: Why no divider for the Curse expansion to keep all the cards from that expansion together when not playing it???
Can you make one, please!!
Also make them for future expansions??
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Further Adventures is the divider you are wanting to use.
I think that the Core Set storage solution was ingenious, giving players the flexibility to organize the cards in a manner of their own choosing and with enough space to add AP cards and some character decks. It might even be possible to cut the foam to create space (though it might not work as well if cut too thinly). I really like that the cards fit into the inserts when sleeved, and there's still room for the documents on top. The reduced size of the box (compared to the previous boxes) makes this much more portable. This is a vast improvement over the previous box.
Assuming Paizo/Lone Shark aren't going to stop at Curse of the Crimson Throne (and I sincerely hope that they don't), using the Further Adventures divider for storing AP cards is not a realistic solution. The AP box should be the default storage solution for AP cards when they are not in use. As it is, the CotCT box doesn't allow the cards to be stored in an organized manner once the packs have been opened (with the possible exception of storing cards in bags, perhaps).
My preference for the CotCT box (and future AP boxes) would have been for it to have the same depth as the Core Set, with the length and width to fit the token/standee sheet. This would be large enough to fit three inserts about half the length of those in the Core Set, sufficient to store all of the AP cards in an organized manner and to have the other materials on top (in the case of the storybook) or in the inserts (in the case of the standees).
Loving the storage space. The only issue I have is that eventually (1, 2, or 10 APs from now) I'll want to remove Curse from the Core box, the Curse cards have not organization in the Curse box. I'll probably end up making my own tuck boxes for them. But my general sentiment was this.
The AP box should be the default storage solution for AP cards when they are not in use.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'm honestly surprised Paizo/Lone Shark missed a step on that front with Curse, considering they seem to have made all the right calls with the Core box, but I suppose there were quite a lot of other things to juggle on two simultaneous big-box releases. Still, adding a few "card type" dividers to future AP boxes shouldn't be that big of a deal so let's hope we see that rectified in the next AP products.
EDIT: BTW, can anyone let me know if Curse box also allows sleeved storage?
Curse box is only 1” tall, so not good for card storage.
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Think I’ll be going this route. :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_ACG/comments/bsjrvx/box_organization_sl eeved_cards/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
Basically using Ultra Pro deck boxes to sort Curse and forthcoming sets.
Further Adventures is the divider you are wanting to use.
Thats great until I have 3 expansions in the core box :(
I don't think they expect people to bring all their aps in one box, as assuming the game continues production would require an infinite sized box, nor can I think why you'd want to.Further Adventures is the divider you are wanting to use.Thats great until I have 3 expansions in the core box :(
True. Then the AP boxes should be built to hold the AP when not in the core box.
Also agree that having dividers in the AP for the AP would be great.
At this point my unused AP cards will likely wind up in a generic white card box and the beautiful Crimson Throne box will get stowed or trashed. Sad about that.
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The Curse of the Crimson Throne box is not large enough to fit the fully-sleeved set, unfortunately. That makes the box pretty much useless for me.
AP boxes should be large enough to store their AP (while fully sleeved) when the AP is not in use. Ideally in an organized fashion (at the moment I have Curse cards inside of deck boxes, and those deck boxes inside of the Curse box. Even then, I can't fit everything in there so a bit of overflow is currently living in the Core box).
If you’re only going to play one AP at a time (probably the way to do it), you could unsleeve the whole set when it comes time to take it out of the Core box (you’d save on sleeves, too, by using them for the newer AP). If you really want to keep it sleeved, though, you could maybe try building a tallish insert out of foamcore. The top could sit on the foamcore; it wouldn’t be perfect, but it could work in a pinch.
There’s always BCW card boxes. They’re great, as most players of other card games can tell you. Downside is they don’t have all the fancy artwork. :(
Skizzerz, based on your post I was a little afraid that my cards will not fit inside while sleeved, but surprisingly enough, they did. The designers made a very good job in most aspects. Maybe different sleeves? I used just PerfectSize sleeves as with all my card games. I put Locations and characters into the Core box, but even if they were in the Curse box, all would fit. I have 3×2 stacks now (each but the last consists of two plastic bags from the sleeves), with the last one almost empty. Did you use normal clear sleeves for your cards? I suppose this is not an option for many people who sleeved their older cards in normal sleeves, but it's best to inform the "new" players that it can really fit inside somehow ;)The Curse of the Crimson Throne box is not large enough to fit the fully-sleeved set, unfortunately. That makes the box pretty much useless for me.
I use Dragon Shields with opaque backs for most cards (and perfect fit clear sleeves for cards that don't get shuffled into anything). They're wider and thicker than inner fits/perfect fits. Plus, I needed to organize the box somehow instead of throwing the cards in loose, and that takes up extra space as well.
Can you take a picture of how you got them all to fit into the Curse box? How does moving the box around fare once they're all inside (i.e. if you carry the box with you for a while in a backpack or something, will all the cards get mixed together or will things remain organized?)
I will grudgingly admit that the bag solution for storing cards in the stock CotCT box works, and if that is the same box size that future APs will get, I'll have to stop whining and just accept it.
However, I would still prefer if the box was of sufficient dimensions to store the cards upright and sleeved, with the storybook on top.
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I started using Sleeve Kings for Core / Curse; used to use Ultra Pro Deck Protector, but I got annoyed at those shiny circles they always put on it. They're 60 microns thick (penny sleeves are 40; most of the premiums are 90-100) - decent protection and 2/3 the price, roughly. Been liking them so far - they shuffle fine compared to the Ultra Pro, fit snugly on the cards - height / width are no problem for the storage in the Core set.
I'm able to fit all of Core and Curse into two of the "rows" of the Core box, with room to spare; the third row is empty.
If Curse takes up a row when sleeved, and you have an empty row, then as long as the next AP isn't much larger than Curse, you won't actually have to take Curse out...
I'll hold hope that this is rather a "how to deal with the existing issue currently" tip, rather that that we won't get a better box for the next AP :)
Sleeved mine up tonight. Ultra Pro Matte in a nice Bloody Red! Got it all in the core box. Made dividers out of index cards. Would be nice to have either dividers with AP related artwork, or at least just basic cards with no art but have the colors and titles at the top. Heck, you'd really only need one extra set with the core, cause as mentioned, you're only going to really be playing one AP out of the box at a time. I suppose for storing unused APs, I'll put them in deck boxes or baggies and store them in the original box. (which is currently sitting on my shelf, which the wife loves. "Empty boxes sitting on shelves, really?!" she says.)
Anyway, here's a pic of my arrangement for those of you that want to just cram it all in the core box!