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WatersLethe wrote:
Ultimate Kobolds

Only if it has a plush cover.

/cackles

Silver Crusade

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Saedar wrote:
WatersLethe wrote:
Ultimate Kobolds

Only if it has a plush cover.

/cackles

Ultimate Plushies


I've stated it before in other places, but I would like EVIL!!! options, I want evil spells, evil items (beyond demon armor and Unholy runes), evil class options, ways to become an evil monster (vampyr, lich, temporarily turn into a demon), evil aligned Champion subclasses, ALL THING FOR TEH EBIL! Beyond that, I would like to see books covering the Planes, if my party wants to wander around the Plane of Fire, Heaven, Abadon, or the Astral Sea itself, I would like a book for that (maybe not one for EACH plane, that'd get insane pretty fast. Maybe one for the elementals, good aligned afterlives, evil afterlives, generic "sea" planes, ect. ect.)


nick1wasd wrote:
I've stated it before in other places, but I would like EVIL!!! options, I want evil spells, evil items (beyond demon armor and Unholy runes), evil class options, ways to become an evil monster (vampyr, lich, temporarily turn into a demon), evil aligned Champion subclasses, ALL THING FOR TEH EBIL! Beyond that, I would like to see books covering the Planes, if my party wants to wander around the Plane of Fire, Heaven, Abadon, or the Astral Sea itself, I would like a book for that (maybe not one for EACH plane, that'd get insane pretty fast. Maybe one for the elementals, good aligned afterlives, evil afterlives, generic "sea" planes, ect. ect.)

Given how long it took Planar Adventures to be released after the Great Beyond book, I suppose we will have to wait for quite some time. Yet, I second this request for a planar guide with second edition rules.


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I don't know if this is the right thread to say it, book it's something close to a book request.

PLEASE! Don't make books under the assumption that "this was already covered in 1E".

There's a book about the many heritages of the aasimara, but all the rules in it are 1E rules, so I would certainly buy the 2E version of this book, even if all the flavor content in it is the same, as long as I can get 2E rules to run all those heritages in 2E adventures.

Don't make books thinking we can just refer to 1E books, or there's no need for a 2E at all.

I'm sure books like Race Guide, Equipment Guide, Magic Guide and others are going to be the priority given how young 2E is, but I hope to see Book of the Damned 2E Hardcover or a Realms of the Fey 2E World Guide, see books revisiting the classic monsters, dragons and giants, books talking about the planes and about horror or occult options.

Don't let 2E depend on 1E.


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I am a big fan of alchemy things, so a book of even more exotic, weird, deadly things to concoct. Even using creature bits to gain boons or something horrible.

Liberty's Edge

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The Gold Sovereign wrote:
PLEASE! Don't make books under the assumption that "this was already covered in 1E".

They've said they aren't going to remake the same books, but that doesn't mean they're not gonna cover a lot of the same content, it's just gonna be arranged differently.

For example, they've actually specifically noted that they want to cover as many of the PF1 character options as they can arrange fairly quickly, but I doubt it's gonna be one book with the Cavalier, Oracle, Witch, and Summoner, then another with the Occult Classes (both of which would be remakes in a sense). They'll likely cover all those Classes (though not necessarily as Classes...some might wind up Archetypes), the question simply becomes how they'll organize doing this. They'll also probably have a few truly new options thrown in their as well, as rehashing old stuff with nothing new can get boring.


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I wonder if the new classes won't be arranged as part of the world guide line, with a class being debuted in the book which covers the part of the world where that class is most significant. So whatever book covers Irrisen gets witches, whichever book covers Sarkoris gets summoners, whatever book covers Ustalav gets inquisitors, whichever book covers Alkenstar gets gunslingers, etc.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I wonder if the new classes won't be arranged as part of the world guide line, with a class being debuted in the book which covers the part of the world where that class is most significant. So whatever book covers Irrisen gets witches, whichever book covers Sarkoris gets summoners, whatever book covers Ustalav gets inquisitors, whichever book covers Alkenstar gets gunslingers, etc.

Hmmm, this could be an interesting approach.


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The Gold Sovereign wrote:

I don't know if this is the right thread to say it, book it's something close to a book request.

PLEASE! Don't make books under the assumption that "this was already covered in 1E".

There's a book about the many heritages of the aasimara, but all the rules in it are 1E rules, so I would certainly buy the 2E version of this book, even if all the flavor content in it is the same, as long as I can get 2E rules to run all those heritages in 2E adventures.

Don't make books thinking we can just refer to 1E books, or there's no need for a 2E at all.

I'm sure books like Race Guide, Equipment Guide, Magic Guide and others are going to be the priority given how young 2E is, but I hope to see Book of the Damned 2E Hardcover or a Realms of the Fey 2E World Guide, see books revisiting the classic monsters, dragons and giants, books talking about the planes and about horror or occult options.

Don't let 2E depend on 1E.

Given how much some books are dedicated to flavor text or potentially straight forward things to convert, I am completely the opposite. By all means, create PF2E material that brings over PF1E stuff, but the last thing I want to see is a series of books that are just rehashing the themes over and over. Mix stuff up!


PossibleCabbage wrote:
I wonder if the new classes won't be arranged as part of the world guide line, with a class being debuted in the book which covers the part of the world where that class is most significant. So whatever book covers Irrisen gets witches, whichever book covers Sarkoris gets summoners, whatever book covers Ustalav gets inquisitors, whichever book covers Alkenstar gets gunslingers, etc.

Ehh...I think those books are maybe better suited for new versions of archetypes or prestige archetypes. Id rather see a less specific book with new classes, since you can be an inquisitor for the Asmodean church in Cheliax, a Nexian Summoner, or a Mwangi Witch.


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MMCJawa wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I wonder if the new classes won't be arranged as part of the world guide line, with a class being debuted in the book which covers the part of the world where that class is most significant. So whatever book covers Irrisen gets witches, whichever book covers Sarkoris gets summoners, whatever book covers Ustalav gets inquisitors, whichever book covers Alkenstar gets gunslingers, etc.
Ehh...I think those books are maybe better suited for new versions of archetypes or prestige archetypes. Id rather see a less specific book with new classes, since you can be an inquisitor for the Asmodean church in Cheliax, a Nexian Summoner, or a Mwangi Witch.

Well, the PF2 world guide line is going to be very different from the player's companion and campaign setting books it replaces. We're going to get bigger books, less often, in hardcover, and with developer oversight. So putting some really meaty content in these (like whole new classes) is going to help justify their existence.

I mean, if you introduce the Witch class in the book with Irrisen content, that doesn't mean you can't have more with content (new feats, patrons, class archetypes, etc.) in the Mwangi book.

Liberty's Edge

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PossibleCabbage wrote:
I mean, if you introduce the Witch class in the book with Irrisen content, that doesn't mean you can't have more with content (new feats, patrons, class archetypes, etc.) in the Mwangi book.

It does mean that people who want to play a Witch have to buy the Irrisen book even if they hate that area of the world, though. A fact likely to breed discontent and resentment.

Really, this just seems like a bad idea. New Archetypes that are actually mostly from that Region? Sound like a fine addition to a Region Book. New Classes found the world over? Not so much.

Personally, I'd expect Classes to appear in primarily rules-oriented books just like they always have, and think that's probably for the best.


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Deadmanwalking wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I mean, if you introduce the Witch class in the book with Irrisen content, that doesn't mean you can't have more with content (new feats, patrons, class archetypes, etc.) in the Mwangi book.

It does mean that people who want to play a Witch have to buy the Irrisen book even if they hate that area of the world, though. A fact likely to breed discontent and resentment.

Really, this just seems like a bad idea. New Archetypes that are actually mostly from that Region? Sound like a fine addition to a Region Book. New Classes found the world over? Not so much.

Personally, I'd expect Classes to appear in primarily rules-oriented books just like they always have, and think that's probably for the best.

Ahhh, excellent point! And now that I have thought about it, I would concur.

Dataphiles

Deadmanwalking wrote:
PossibleCabbage wrote:
I mean, if you introduce the Witch class in the book with Irrisen content, that doesn't mean you can't have more with content (new feats, patrons, class archetypes, etc.) in the Mwangi book.

It does mean that people who want to play a Witch have to buy the Irrisen book even if they hate that area of the world, though. A fact likely to breed discontent and resentment.

Really, this just seems like a bad idea. New Archetypes that are actually mostly from that Region? Sound like a fine addition to a Region Book. New Classes found the world over? Not so much.

Personally, I'd expect Classes to appear in primarily rules-oriented books just like they always have, and think that's probably for the best.

On the other side of it, the Irrisen book will likely function as it did before and contain an icy Witch patron and associated patron feats as well as some other Irrisen features for other classes.

"The cold never bothered me anyway."


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I spent the entirety of my time with PF1 wanting a martial shape-shifter. Essentially all I wanted was Wildshape, full BAB and no spells.

I can't say that I ever got an adequate one. Shifter was, on the whole, not good enough — and came far too late in the cycle. Though I I did *very* much enjoy the Oozemorph.


I would love a 2e book on Tian Xia, preferably much bigger than dragon empires gazetteer. A hardcover compilation of the jade regent adventure path would also be great. Ideally these would be released very close to each other.

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