The Mandalorian

[Set]

Fun ep. I guess it was kind of narratively necessary once we knew why Gideon wanted 'the child' (for his blood) that he'd have to get him so that we could see that played out. (Who gets the transfusion? Is the research going to continue, or has it been complete enough that he can infuse himself with force-potential before it all goes spectacularly pear-shaped?)

It's been a fun ride. Never really loved the Razor Crest visually, so I'm interested in seeing what replaces it. Something more durable, one hopes. Mando is hard on ships... :)

[JoelF847]

Set wrote:

Fun ep. I guess it was kind of narratively necessary once we knew why Gideon wanted 'the child' (for his blood) that he'd have to get him so that we could see that played out. (Who gets the transfusion? Is the research going to continue, or has it been complete enough that he can infuse himself with force-potential before it all goes spectacularly pear-shaped?)

I'm assuming based on the point in the timeline that Gideon is using the blood to pave the way for Snoke. He was genetically engineered/cloned from somewhere, and it looks like Mandalorian will show us that.

[Vidmaster7]

You can actually tell the show is being ran by people who like the source material. I can't wait for the next episode.

[Werthead]

We don't really know how in the Nu-Canon that Fett escaped from the sarlaac. If it's the like the old Legends version, he used his jet pack to blast his way out of the sarlaac, bursting its stomach and killing it in the process (it turns out the taking 1,000 years to digest something means your stomach acids are actually pretty harmless in the short term). He was also wearing his armour at that point.

It's easier to assume that he decided to retire from bounty hunting or something and his armour got snatched during that time.

The real question is why he didn't go and get his armour back from Timothy Olyphant rather than chasing a far more formidable opponent halfway across the galaxy to do it.

[Aberzombie]

Maybe they’ll finally explain the new cannon Sarlaac escape in the next episode.

Another thing I’m looking forward to - who will end up with the Darksaber by the end of the season. I’d like to see it as Bo Katan, but it would also be interesting if Boba Fett got hold of it.

[JoelF847]

Werthead wrote:

We don't really know how in the Nu-Canon that Fett escaped from the sarlaac. If it's the like the old Legends version, he used his jet pack to blast his way out of the sarlaac, bursting its stomach and killing it in the process (it turns out the taking 1,000 years to digest something means your stomach acids are actually pretty harmless in the short term). He was also wearing his armour at that point.

It's easier to assume that he decided to retire from bounty hunting or something and his armour got snatched during that time.

The real question is why he didn't go and get his armour back from Timothy Olyphant rather than chasing a far more formidable opponent halfway across the galaxy to do it.

I'd also like to know how Boba Fett tracked Mando. Gideon needed a tracker on his ship to do it and had a lot more resources. I guess Boba could have just asked around where he was heading from planet to planet, but I'd have thought he'd lose that trail when Mando got Ashoka's location from Bo Katan.

[TriOmegaZero]

I figure he's familiar with Imperial trackers and followed the same signal.

[BigNorseWolf]

JoelF847 wrote:

I'd also like to know how Boba Fett tracked Mando.

Uhm.. Bounty hunter? Kinda his thing

[BigNorseWolf]

Werthead wrote:

The real question is why he didn't go and get his armour back from Timothy Olyphant rather than chasing a far more formidable opponent halfway across the galaxy to do it.

I think he saw it being used by a better man than he was and didn't like the thought of killing him over it.

I don't think Bobba cares about formidable. He cares about worthy. The guy that risks his rear saving the town? He can have it. Random Mr. Shiney that isn't even going to wear it, but give it to some other random guy or (for all bobba knew) sell it? Oh hell no.

It's also possible he's been wandering around tatooine looking for it and found it shortly after mando did. Its been sitting in a pile of junk on a jawa sandcrawler for a while, and we don't know how long Tims been wearing it. The town gave the impression of being on the backend of forever even for tatooine (which is itself the back end of forever). Word of a "mandalorian" may have taken a bit to reach him.

[JoelF847]

TriOmegaZero wrote:

I figure he's familiar with Imperial trackers and followed the same signal.

I like that explanation.

[Mark Hoover 330]

Explanation why Boba didn't go right after the armor: amnesia.

"This was a crap episode": opinions may vary

Easter eggs re: Kyle Katarn - who is Kyle Katarn?

So much of this show goes right over my head, it's nice to use this thread to figure out what I'm missing. Grogu was cute, as usual. Also, glad to see that "shackles" have replaced "binders" for restraining prisoners in the Empire. Perhaps wookies won't escape so easily anymore.

I wonder if the show has the budget to bring back the whole crew or just Mayfield? It'll be cool to see another prison break episode and hopefully Cara Dune is along. Gina Carano is VERY beautiful, and her acting and character are very fun to watch.

Honestly it feels dumb coming in here and making any comments at all, not knowing any of the extended universe info. To me Dark Troopers are something new in this show; I don't know what the metals of Star Wars are. One thing I CAN speak to though: the unimpressive nature of Storm Troopers.

I personally blame all of it on the choice by Lucas to leave in that iconic gaff when an extra, playing a storm trooper, hit his head on a door frame back in A New Hope. Since that moment they were basically comic relief.

I liked how the Clone Wars cartoon showed them in action and made some storm troopers a bit more effective. I also liked Finn in the new movies giving some live action character to these troops as well. However, I STILL want moments like the 2 bike troopers in season 1, chatting about their jobs! priceless.

[Haladir]

Agreed, Mark: I never really followed anything Star Wars that wasn't a theatrical release, so all of the "Extended Universe" stuff goes right over my head, too. Despite that, I'm really enjoying this show: It's written well enough to tell casual fans everything the need to know to follow the story, while still providing those Easter egg "Aha!" moments to deep fans.

I really liked seeing Boba Fett come back, and get more screen-time than in all of the movies combined!

[Did you know that Boba Fett was first introduced in a very weird cartoon that was only broadcast once during the infamous 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special?]

[EDIT: I hadn't watched that cartoon in nearly 20 years... the animation is HIDEOUS!]

[Aberzombie]

I read a lot of the Star Wars novels back in the day (starting around the time of the trilogy that introduced Thrawn), but I had to look up Dark Troopers and Kyle Katarn (introduced in video games back in the 90s apparently). So there's some stuff outside the films I'm aware of, and some I'm not.

Haladir wrote:

[Did you know that Boba Fett was first introduced in a very weird cartoon that was only broadcast once during the infamous 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special?]

This I did know, since I watched the special when it aired, lo those many years ago.

[TriOmegaZero]

I'm the same as Haladir and Mark. I'm lucky my family has watched the Clone Wars and read the books, otherwise I'd be completely in the dark beyond the couple clips and memes I've seen.

[Freehold DM]

I've read no small amount of extended universe stuff and own the entire X Wing series of novels and have the X-Wing vs Tie fighter games. I am very opinionated and remember some of the less popular novels and decisions made at editorial levels and the divisions that occurred in the fanbase loooong before sequels and hell, prequels, were ever a thing.

Mandalorian remains amazing.

[Haladir]

Aberzombie wrote:

Haladir wrote:

[Did you know that Boba Fett was first introduced in a very weird cartoon that was only broadcast once during the infamous 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special?]

This I did know, since I watched the special when it aired, lo those many years ago.

I also saw the original broadcast... or at least the first half of the two-hour special.

I recall that 8-year-old me was not too terribly upset by being sent to bed at the 9:00 PM half-way point (it was my bedtime) because I was mostly confused by the show and didn't really like it all that much.

[JoelF847]

The other cool thing about the Boba Fett animated intro from the Holiday Special is that he had a distinctive rifle, though he never had it in the movies. However, it's the same rifle Mando uses.

[CapeCodRPGer]

I think Boba was still tracking the armor when He saw Mando driving away with it at the end of first episode this season.

[JoelF847]

CapeCodRPGer wrote:

I think Boba was still tracking the armor when He saw Mando driving away with it at the end of first episode this season.

Not sure about that - or if so, he rolled a 1 tracking the armor, but then rolled a 20 tracking Mando across the galaxy!

[Haladir]

A summary of every episode of The Mandalorian.

[Freehold DM]

Haladir wrote:

A summary of every episode of The Mandalorian.

...yup.

[Mark Hoover 330]

In the Boba Fett cartoon... was that Dr Robotnik?

[JoelF847]

Disney's investor event today announced a giant amount of stuff, including that there will be 10 Star Wars TV shows on Disney+ within 3-4 years, including 2 Mandalorian spin offs. “The Rangers of the New Republic” and “Ahsoka”, staring Rosario Dawson. At some point all three shows will intersect in "a climactic story event." Sounds like a Netflix style Defenders series.

Other Star Wars TV projects will include the previously announced:

“Andor,” a “Rogue One” prequel series focusing on Diego Luna’s Cassian Andor that’s currently in production and will debut in 2022.

"Obi-Wan Kenobi,” starring Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen reprising their roles from the prequel movie trilogy, which will go into production in March 2021.

“Star Wars: The Bad Batch,” the animated follow up to the animated series “Star Wars: The Clone Wars.”

As well as newly announced:

“Lando,” a new spin-off series from “Dear White People” creator Justin Simien following classic “Star Wars” rogue Lando Calrissian. The character was played by Donald Glover in 2018’s “Solo: A Star Wars Story,” but it’s unclear if Glover will return for the series.

“The Acolyte,” a female-centric series, billed as a “mystery-thriller” set in the final days of the High Republic era, from Leslye Headland (“Russian Doll”).

“Star Wars: Visions,” an anthology collection of short films set in the “Star Wars” universe from 10 different Japanese animation creators, which will debut in 2021.

“A Droid Story,” an animated series from Lucasfilm Animation and Lucasfilm’s visual effects team that sets R2-D2 and C-3PO on a new adventure.

[CapeCodRPGer]

Just watched chapter 15, a couple of thoughts.

Spoiler:

I thought it would have been good if Mayfeld came with them to get the Baby Yoda. I understand they needed access to Gideon's ship. But why use the term coordinates? That usually means a fixed location. They are looking for a ship, something that moves. Should have used term broadcast signal or signature or something. I loved that Boba's armor is cleaned up.

I thought it was a good episode.

[Freehold DM]

I'm excited for visions.

[Aberzombie]

Just finished watching the new episode. I thought it was a solid entry, with a straightforward plot, good action sequences, and a few interesting surprises. Bill Burr’s Mayfeld was a bit more interesting this time.

I also thought that bit at the end was a nice set up for next week’s finale. Definitely looking forward to that showdown.

[Bjørn Røyrvik]

Marc Radle wrote:

I love this developing pattern ...

Everyone posts all the things the love about each new episode, and generally give the episode in question (and show in general) praise ... and then a certain curmudgeon pops in each week to call it a ‘crap’ episode.

If you're referring to me, I suggest you look back over my previous comments. It's about 50/50.

This most recent episode was pretty good, for instance. I did halfway expect Dinn's cover to be blown the moment he got into base for being way too effective for an Imperial Trooper.

JoelF847 wrote:

Not sure why you think that a design look and feel change on the Dark Troopers in any way invalidates their history in the Dark Forces game, or Kyle Katarn's possibility of showing up. Things often change their look some when migrating from games or animation to live action. In the case of the Dark Troopers, the fact that they're mostly machines means the ones in Mandalorian are simply a design upgrade (clearly they needed an upgrade since Kyle beat them, the Dark Troopers MkII however will surely be invincible!)

I think their inclusion in Mandalorian means the odds of Kyle showing up increase dramatically. He could very well be the Jedi who hears the signal that Grogu sent from the stone circle.

I doubt this. They've already nixed Katarn as the procurer of the Death Star plans, and I can't see how he could be a Jedi, since the events of JK II and III really do not fit in with D-canon. JK I might possibly work if you squint, but at that point he has no contact with any Jedi outside whatsisface who died.

A more likely explanation is one I've heard on another board: they're gonna give Grogu to Maz Kanata (the orange discount Yoda in TFA), tying this even more firmly into the sequels. Either that or the idiots from Rebels. Or yet another Jedi, hithertoo unrevealed, who miraculously survived the purge along with seemingly half the Order. I didn't like that aspect of old canon and I'm not pleased that D-canon is continuing this trend.

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

Easter eggs re: Kyle Katarn - who is Kyle Katarn?

Protagonist of a series of video games. Dark Forces, where he steals the Death Star plans and takes out the Dark Trooper project; DF2: Jedi Knight where he faces off against an Inquisitor and his posse (when they were cool and not the shit in Rebels) and becomes a Jedi; and JK2: Jedi Outcast, where he takes out the Reborn, Dark side Force sensitives created through magic crystals by yet another failed student of Luke's - great game stupid plot. Kyle is also your mentor in JK3: Jedi Academy - the best Jedi-based game ever as far as game play is concerned.

[Queen Abrogail Thrune I]

JoelF847 wrote:

I'm assuming based on the point in the timeline that Gideon is using the blood to pave the way for Snoke. He was genetically engineered/cloned from somewhere, and it looks like Mandalorian will show us that.

Hoping Mando has nothing to do with those 'future' movies... ;)

[BigNorseWolf]

mmmm saltier than Krait

[Vidmaster7]

yes my preference would be to let the the new movies fall out of cannon.

[Freehold DM]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

yes my preference would be to let the the new movies fall out of cannon.

Not happening. If I have to live with Jar Jar and the killing of the women and the children via unholy ACTING.

..TALENT!!!, you have to live with this.

[Vidmaster7]

I heard it wasn't so much haydens fault as it was George's script and directing. Like apparently hayden was just doing what he was told to do.

[JoelF847]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

I heard it wasn't so much haydens fault as it was George's script and directing. Like apparently hayden was just doing what he was told to do.

We'll get to see in the Obi-wan series, since they just announced Hayden will reprise his role as Darth Vader in that.

[Mark Hoover 330]

If the Obi-Wan tv show doesn't do some kind of homage to High Ground, I'll be disappointed.

This episode was AWESOME in my opinion! Somehow I'd completely missed that Mayfield was an Imperial in his first appearance, but I loved the philosophical, poli-sci attempt at comparing the Empire and the New Republic while they were driving. Also

Spoiler:

Mayfield shot first! Literally, when that scene happened my mouth was hanging open and I was bolt upright on the couch. First off this is Disney; I never expected anything so ruthless even if there's no gore. Second, he just shot an officer inside a base FULL of troopers! I mean, are you KIDDING ME?

Ms Carano is spectacular and beautiful as ever as Cara Dune. Also I like that her own anti-Empire fury didn't overpower the mission. Cara knew what she had to do and kept rage in check remaining calm and focused. She'd make a good Jedi.

Spoiler:

Boba Fett using the charge on the pursuing tie fighters... simply BRILLIANT! I loved that callback.

I also really enjoyed all the subtle details inside Boba Fett's ship - the exterior rotating around the passenger section, Mayfield and Mando being jostled around during evasive maneuvers, and Boba not wearing his jet pack/missile while seated in the cockpit.

"They might recognize my face." Terrific writing and dialogue. Jango Fett was THE clone, so of course Boba's armor as well as his ACTUAL face is like an icon of the Empire.

The whole bit with Mando and Mayfield escaping up to the roof of the refinery was so cool for the action fan in me. Mayfield's final act, sealing his redemption arc, terrific. I actually cheered at my screen.

This show just hits the right feels for me. It gets me back to those old days when Han was escaping dozens of troopers or Luke, seeing Obi-Wan cut down, just starts blasting EVERYTHING recklessly! Like, its nice to see a Star Wars property go back and embrace those primal beats the first 3 movies hit.

You add that to the writing, the different directors and their talents, the excellent acting... this show is just well put together.

[JoelF847]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

If the Obi-Wan tv show doesn't do some kind of homage to High Ground, I'll be disappointed.

This episode was AWESOME in my opinion!

That's a reference I don't get - what's High Ground?

Agreed that the episode was pretty awesome. I also liked Mando throwing back the same speech from season 1 back at Moff Gideon at the end.

[BigNorseWolf]

Vidmaster7 wrote:

yes my preference would be to let the the new movies fall out be shot out of a cannon.

:)

[GM SuperTumbler]

Re: Hayden Christensen's acting

I've been saying this for almost 20 years now, but I'm always excited to repeat it. George Lucas is terrible at directing actors. He is an excellent director when it comes to camera work, and a great director of visuals.

Go back and watch A New Hope. I like to focus on the lines in the scene where the Falcon drops out of hyperspace and they are seeing the Death Star for the first time. Harrison Ford is garbage in that scene. Mark Hamill is garbage in that scene. Alec Guinness is alright.

You can see the same thing in The Phantom Menace. Liam Neeson is good there. And by the time of Episode 2 and 3, Ewan is also good.

That is because they are experienced actors. They know how to do their job, and they do it well despite Lucas' direction.

If you want to know if Hayden is a good actor, watch a not that well known movie from 2001 called Life as a House. (Trigger Warning: Kevin Spacey is in it). Hayden plays basically the same role, a petulant teenager. In this movie he is great, because he has a director who understands how to direct actors.

[Freehold DM]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

Ms Carano is spectacular and beautiful as ever as Cara Dune. Also I like that her own anti-Empire fury didn't overpower the mission. Cara knew what she had to do and kept rage in check remaining calm and focused. She'd make a good Jedi.

...whut.

[Freehold DM]

I must have misspoken. I was lampooning the entire scene, not just the acting. I found the prequels to be very poorly written motherf$~*ing awful, and take issue with the seeming demented overzealous defense of them to the point that people have rewritten them in their heads and offer their fan theories as what actually happened in the films, which thereby saves them, meanwhile the sequels are what's actually bad.

Seriously. Does noone remember the immense criticism Lucas received for those three turkeys until the clone wars tv series came out? Am I living in an alternate reality? Or were there just a lot of kids who watched ep 1-3 who are older now and zealously defend them because they were the first movies they ever saw?

[Aberzombie]

I've leveled my fair share of criticism at the prequels over the years. However, as I've gotten older, that criticism has softened a little, to the point I can sit and watch them with my kids and enjoy that time. And I do think the Clone Wars series has made an oversized contribution to that softening.

[Freehold DM]

Without The Clone Wars, the prequels are nothing more than bad movies that happen to be part of a beloved series. I'm sure the sequels will get similar treatment.

Been there with Star Trek before, and noone made any rape/death threats there.

[Mark Hoover 330]

JoelF847 wrote:

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

If the Obi-Wan tv show doesn't do some kind of homage to High Ground, I'll be disappointed.

This episode was AWESOME in my opinion!

That's a reference I don't get - what's High Ground?

Agreed that the episode was pretty awesome. I also liked Mando throwing back the same speech from season 1 back at Moff Gideon at the end.

I capitalized those words for dramatic effect, nothing else. By "high ground" the phrase, I meant that part at the end of Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan tells Anikin not to try jumping to attack because "I have the high ground!" This line has become a meme, then almost an entire online movement. It's been parodied on Robot Chicken. With as much attention as this scene has received online, I just naturally assumed that everyone was as obsessed with it as I was.

Freehold DM wrote:

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

Ms Carano is spectacular and beautiful as ever as Cara Dune. Also I like that her own anti-Empire fury didn't overpower the mission. Cara knew what she had to do and kept rage in check remaining calm and focused. She'd make a good Jedi.

...whut.

Cara Dune has been portrayed for 2 seasons as having a seething hatred for the Empire, being a survivor of Alderon and such. She has jumped at the chance to strike back at the Empire in several episodes, and her passion for vengeance has been pretty obvious. Then, when she took up her sniper role in this episode it was nice that she wasn't hamming up the vengeance thing, being calm, cool and collected in her pursuit of doing just enough to make sure Mando and Mayfield got out alive, nothing more.

If she's able to stow big emotions to get a job done, maybe she's a person that can work towards controlling those emotions altogether. Since that's like, 99% of being a Jedi, with the other 1% being having tons of one kind of microbe in your body, maybe she'd make a good Jedi.

On a personal note, never research your heroes. I am getting really into this show so I searched up info on Gina Carano and Pedro Pascal, and the first stories that came up were extreme tweets that both have lobbed, earning them the enmity of one side of the internet or the other. I like their acting in this show, and I think Ms Carano is really pretty; I'm not looking to endorse anyone's Twitter views or anything.

I'd just like to make that clear and go on with my fanboying.

[BigNorseWolf]

Freehold DM wrote:

Seriously. Does noone remember the immense criticism Lucas received for those three turkeys until the clone wars tv series came out? Am I living in an alternate reality? Or were there just a lot of kids who watched ep 1-3 who are older now and zealously defend them because they were the first movies they ever saw?

Or did the Disney three dig the basement so low that the prequels are now on the second floor :)

[Mark Hoover 330]

In '99 we had PM; in '02 it was Clones, in '05 it wrapped up in Revenge. My girls were born in '02 and '04 respectively. I remember watching PM on the big screen and thinking "why?"

Despite that my girls have grown up knowing Hayden C. is Darth Vader. They think he's one of the legendary actors of their lifetime. They think that the "women... and the children" speech is high drama, Oscar worthy.

They're wrong.

Now, I could go on and on about all the reasons, but I'm going to boil it down to one line from Obi-Wan in the original, episode 4: "He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior... and, he was a good friend."

Now, if you ignore EVERYTHING else between 1, 2 & 3 to ep. 4, help me understand - when were Obi Wan and Anakin friends? I mean, they say the WORDS that they're friends, a couple times, but they never really act that way, onscreen, for all 3 episodes.

I watched a few episodes of the Clone Wars cartoons and you really get the sense there that sometimes during the war the "master/student" thing slipped into genuine friendship quite a bit. This always confused me in the movies though. They never really seemed like they were all that close.

Obi Wan's speech, at the very end, that they were like "brothers", while brilliantly acted, also never sat well. They were never really shown to be, like, confidants to one another, or friends, or really all that close. Anakin does all his real therapy moments with either Palpatine or Padme. Wow, maybe it's the letter "P"?

Anyway, so much of the drama of 4, 5 & 6 hinges on how Obi Wan and Anakin were friends but then Darth Vader came along and ruined that. All of that is ruined by the lukewarm onscreen relationship by Obi Wan and Anakin in the movies, redeemed only by the Clone Wars.

I'm guessing then that a lot of the other junk that the prequels mucked up ended up getting fixed by the cartoons. And isn't Filoni from the cartoons? Didn't he get started in Clone Wars or something? Anyway, in the end I think I'd agree with BN Dubbs upthread; ep 7, 8 & 9 are SO bad, the prequels get a little bit of a reprieve.

[JoelF847]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

JoelF847 wrote:

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

If the Obi-Wan tv show doesn't do some kind of homage to High Ground, I'll be disappointed.

This episode was AWESOME in my opinion!

That's a reference I don't get - what's High Ground?

Agreed that the episode was pretty awesome. I also liked Mando throwing back the same speech from season 1 back at Moff Gideon at the end.

I capitalized those words for dramatic effect, nothing else. By "high ground" the phrase, I meant that part at the end of Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan tells Anikin not to try jumping to attack because "I have the high ground!" This line has become a meme, then almost an entire online movement. It's been parodied on Robot Chicken. With as much attention as this scene has received online, I just naturally assumed that everyone was as obsessed with it as I was.

Ah, that explains it. With the capitalization, I assumed it was a Star Wars Comic or something (and I don't follow the comics). The line was fairly unmemorable to me (which also applies to the entirety of Ep III - say what you will about Ep I and II, they at least were memorable). As for it being a meme, I try to avoid memes and most "internet" culture in general, so that also explains it.

[Aberzombie]

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

And isn't Filoni from the cartoons? Didn't he get started in Clone Wars or something?

Yes. He was one of the main show runners for both The Clone Wars and Rebels. If I recall correctly, Mandalorian was his first foray into live action, which is probably one of the reasons Favreau was put in charge. Either way, I think the two of them are some of the best things to happen to Star Wars in a long time.

[JoelF847]

Aberzombie wrote:

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:

And isn't Filoni from the cartoons? Didn't he get started in Clone Wars or something?

Yes. He was one of the main show runners for both The Clone Wars and Rebels. If I recall correctly, Mandalorian was his first foray into live action, which is probably one of the reasons Favreau was put in charge. Either way, I think the two of them are some of the best things to happen to Star Wars in a long time.

Mandalorian was Favreau's project from the beginning. Filoni was more likely brought in to be Jon's deep lore geek and to also get Filoni experience with live action and level him up for bigger things in the future solo. Though both spin offs are developed by both of them. If you look at the writer for the Mandalorian episodes, most of actually written by Favreau.

[GM SuperTumbler]

I think what we are seeing is a combination of Filoni's lore and writing capacity with Favreau's skills and experience with producing/directing big projects.

I agree that Favreau is training wheels for Filoni to work in live action.

Only tangentially related, there is an episode of The Chef Show on Netflix where Favreau, Roy, and Filoni cook at Skywalker Ranch. It gives you a sense of the relationship the two of them share.

[Freehold DM]

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

Seriously. Does noone remember the immense criticism Lucas received for those three turkeys until the clone wars tv series came out? Am I living in an alternate reality? Or were there just a lot of kids who watched ep 1-3 who are older now and zealously defend them because they were the first movies they ever saw?

Or did the Disney three dig the basement so low that the prequels are now on the second floor :)

dislike the sequels all you like. They aren't my favorite movies. However the prequels do not get a pass just because Lucas worked on them.