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I am excite!
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Eager to see how they handle Crane Wing here.
Woohoo!
WHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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And I am wondering what the level of compatibility will be.
Edit: I saw some hints about this in the FAQ, but it will be useful to see just how much work will be required to make the older material work with the new.
I'm IN!
Interesting...
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Wow. I am not entirely convinced I'll be taking this journey with you guys. (I have enough unplayed Pathfinder products to last many years back here in Obsolete-land.) But I am totally excited to see the playtest roll out!
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Somehow, I thought I would be upset by the announcement of a new version of Pathfinder. Now that it's here, I'm actually okay with it. It definitely looks like Starfinder was the step toward a second edition of Pathfinder. I look forward to seeing what fun Paizo cooks up.
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Although I don't expect Paizo to continue to create new content for PF "1", do you plan to continue to sell material for the original version of Pathfinder (particularly Adventure Paths)?
I, like many others, have active disinterest in switching to a new version of the game, but there are still decades left of AP's left for our group to explore, and we'd like to continue supporting your company, even if we don't go down this road with you.
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I've always thought of Pathfinder as it's own second edition, but now I'm excited to hear it'l have an actual one!
I just hope it manages to avoid some of the bloat that Pathfinder accumulated over it's lifespan.
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Where's the place to pre-order?
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Although I don't expect Paizo to continue to create new content for PF "1", do you plan to continue to sell material for the original version of Pathfinder (particularly Adventure Paths)?
I, like many others, have active disinterest in switching to a new version of the game, but there are still decades left of AP's left for our group to explore, and we'd like to continue supporting your company, even if we don't go down this road with you.
Please see the FAQ, especially the question But I don't want to change editions! I want to play Pathfinder First Edition forever and ever and ever!
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Didn't see this coming this week. Next week, sure, but not this week.
AWESOME!
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If this blog is your first exposure to the concept of a new edition, I would suggest doing these things (perhaps in this order):
• Read the Pathfinder Playtest page, and make sure you watch the video near the top.
• Read the FAQ linked at the bottom of that page.
• Engage! Join us on the Pathfinder Playtest messageboards. Tell us what you think. Ask questions. We can't answer every possible question you might have, but we need to know what's important to you, so we can make the game you want to play.
• Keep an eye on the blogs at the bottom of the playtest page; we'll be adding more content regularly.
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I think I'm like Rysky; I have different emotions.
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Ignoring the "we can't possibly know yet" questions, I'm both excited and concerned. This already sounds a lot easier to teach people (or pick up and learn alone) than PF as it exists today. It also sounds as though a lot of lessons were learned from publications along the way, such as Automatic Bonus Progression in Pathfinder Unchained. These are both great things.
That said, the elephant in the room question is now and will always be "how much of my Paizo collection will/won't work with this?" Given that there's a conversion of Crypt of the Everflame, I would venture that there is the possibility of a conversion guide, but it could very well be limited just to adventures. There are certainly loads of things that people will individually want to see included/excluded from the new edition. That all said, phrases like "10th-level spells and 4 spell lists" are reasonably concerning. One might recall that the current CRB has 6 spell lists. The natural question is "who didn't make the cut?" followed by "what does that mean for those classes?"
All that said, there's no question that I'll be picking this up. I'm curious what sort of adventure support we can expect on the lead-up, though - will there be organized play opportunities? Published adventures exclusively using the new rules?
10 years is a long time on this edition. I've been advocating for this for several of them while understanding the risk this poses to Paizo. New editions are hard and I hope that there are some lessons learned from Starfinder's development and launch that informed the work here. I hope, most importantly, that there won't be a shortage of books at GenCon this time around. If there's a subscription option that gets me on this train, I'll gladly take it to alleviate that concern for myself.
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I have but one fear from this... Skill Proficiencies, they're the thing I hate the most about 4e and 5e. Please keep to a skill points system. :(
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THIS HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL. I AM VERY EXCITED.
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...the elephant in the room question is now and will always be "how much of my Paizo collection will/won't work with this?" Given that there's a conversion of Crypt of the Everflame, I would venture that there is the possibility of a conversion guide, but it could very well be limited just to adventures.
If there's a subscription option that gets me on this train, I'll gladly take it to alleviate that concern for myself.
The Pathfinder Playtest products won't be part of any subscription, but we will be accepting preorders between March 20 and May 1.
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Hm. I am... intrigued
While I'm not all THAT bummed by potential edition changes (no system is perfect, after all, and Pathfinder is definitely getting a little bulky in places)... I am definitely now less likely to pick up those PF1 pocket editions I was so hyped for when they were announced- in many cases, they'd be replacing the full-sized editions I already own. May as well save the do-re-mi.
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Please see the FAQ, especially the question But I don't want to change editions! I want to play Pathfinder First Edition forever and ever and ever!Although I don't expect Paizo to continue to create new content for PF "1", do you plan to continue to sell material for the original version of Pathfinder (particularly Adventure Paths)?
I, like many others, have active disinterest in switching to a new version of the game, but there are still decades left of AP's left for our group to explore, and we'd like to continue supporting your company, even if we don't go down this road with you.
At the point at which it is no longer feasible to keep those pocket editions in print physically, I see that they remain 'in print' digitally. Will you consider putting them up for 'Print On Demand' at that point, or are the print on demand services still below the quality level that your happy for Paizo products to go out at?
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I'm amazed at the level of thought and work you've poured into a 2E that sounds like it'll be completely different in a very good way...but this honestly feels premature to me. Starfinder is still brand new and you've even recently made a new Complete book for 1E. You've hit the 10 year mark with no signs of slowing down. It was really exciting to think that you'd be the ones to break that ceiling. So...a bit of a bummer to see the playtest for 2E released now in that respect. Been playing for years but there are so many archetypes and mechanics and whatnot left that I want to explore in 1E that I don't think I'll be switching over anytime soon unless 1E is phased out of organized play at cons while I still have 1E scenarios left or the next homegame GM wants to run the Playtest AP. Someday I'll join in the new fun...but not now.
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I too am a mix of emotions on this. 40+ books that may or may not be useful (I'm looking at you Monster books), BUT if they do something like StarFinder and make it easy to convert, I'll be ok with that. Something like how 1st to 2nd edition of D&D wasn't a MASSIVE change, just a little change.
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I am severely disappointed in Paizo and a little angry. This is exactly why I left D&D.
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I'm torn on the subject. In one hand, NEW AND SHINY!, in the other, "but I've already invested in Pathfinder...heavily as is."
I will definitely get in on the playtest, but no idea if my wallet will be willing to buy into new books.
EDIT: Who am I kidding, my wallet has no say in the matter, it's just along for the ride.
