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I really love Alpha 2 and was wondering if we have an ETA on ALPHA 3 ???
One we have Alpha 3, we should have the complete Alpha playtest document, is that right? Then, next comes the bog bad Beta? Or ... could there be some tweaks first to the Alpha 3 doc? Alpha 2.1, Alpha 2.2 etc???
It comes out later.
yay ...late next week be sweet...or early the week after.
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It comes out later.I really love Alpha 2 and was wondering if we have an ETA on ALPHA 3 ???
Once we have Alpha 3, we should have the complete Alpha playtest document, is that right? Then, next comes the big bad Beta? Or ... could there be some tweaks first to the Alpha 3 doc? Alpha 3.1, Alpha 3.2 etc???
Uh, that was helpful - thanks.
Oh, and thanks for the actual ETA Erik!
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Uh, that was helpful - thanks.Oh, and thanks for the actual ETA Erik!
Sorry. I am just wary to get my hopes up and build the anticipation too much after last release. The less I think about how soon it comes out the less I'll obsess about it. If my own anxiety and cynicism has rubbed off on you, I apologize.
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Alpha 3 is looking like it should be available late next week. Or so.A3 is the last one, right, before PFRPG goes into beta?
Yep. Basically, there will be a few weeks to get feedback and then Jason will massage the alpha documents into the beta document that will be released at GenCon. Then we will playtest the heck out of that beta document for the next 10 months or so.
-Lisa
I will be away for two weeks starting from next week. As a result, I will, regretfully, not be able to get my hands on Alpha 3 and provide feedback until after that.
I really hope its a seperate document So my wife wont kill me for using up all the ink again when i print it out
Just to clarify: is the beta version going to be a free download like the alpha test?
This from here: http://paizo.com/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG
"This coming August, Paizo will release a massive, full-color, softcover Pathfinder RPG Beta release for $24.99. This book will be available on paizo.com, at Gen Con, as well as through hobby distribution at local game stores. Just like the Alpha releases, the Beta release will be available as a free PDF download on paizo.com."
Are we going to see an Alpha 2.1, or has that been rolled into Alpha 3?
Just to clarify: is the beta version going to be a free download like the alpha test?
Yes.
Just to clarify: is the beta version going to be a free download like the alpha test?Yes.
Booya! Cookies for everyone!
Any more dev notes along with it?
Jason said he was giving some concerns to changes made previously (like the sorcerer).
Will dev notes or updates be part of this, or are you gonna lay most everything out and go through further development afterwards?
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Will there be significant changes between A2 and A3?
There are LOTS of comments on these boards on class reconstruction, feat builds, condensed skills, and so forth.
I know that Paizo may be reluctant to tell us how it's narrowing its work . . . at the risk of alienating members of its consumer base . . . but it would be nice to know whether people are spending undue time on things Paizo has no sense in changing. E.g., condensing skills further.
If you'd rather not say, I understand.
P.S. If I order the Beta, as a subscriber or no, from Paizo, is there any chance of a discount? : )
I have already gone out and bought new print cartriges in anticipation.
I just use the printers at my university. They take money from me for my "print credit" so I may as well make the most of it.
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How complete is the Beta going to be? Meaning - I still have to refer to the PHB (and DMG) a lot with the current alpha versions . . . including for the core classes in the alpha version.
Will the Beta be completely inclusive . . . at least as a PHB? (I'd like to look my D&D 3.5 PHB away and start hanging onto the Beta religiously . . . at least until next year.)
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Alpha 3 is looking like it should be available late next week. Or so.
One of the most interesting things for me about the whole open playtest process is seeing the way that certain sections of the document change between versions.
By noting the sections of the document that change and those that don't, I am getting a better idea of the direction that Paizo is taking the game in.
Paizo seem to be confident about the changes that they are making to the 3.5 rules in some areas, but willing to explore a variety of different options in other areas. The open playtest process obviously serves as a form of market research, enabling the folks at Paizo to get a sense of community reaction to some of the bolder changes.
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Alpha 3 is looking like it should be available late next week. Or so.One of the most interesting things for me about the whole open playtest process is seeing the way that certain sections of the document change between versions.
By noting the sections of the document that change and those that don't, I am getting a better idea of the direction that Paizo is taking the game in.
Paizo seem to be confident about the changes that they are making to the 3.5 rules in some areas, but willing to explore a variety of different options in other areas. The open playtest process obviously serves as a form of market research, enabling the folks at Paizo to get a sense of community reaction to some of the bolder changes.
Which if Wizards had been more open in their development of 4e, more people would be willing to see it through...but instead they chose the corporate NDA and lie to the public about release dates and development.
I love what Paizo is with 3.5, and will be supporting it as much as possible.
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How complete is the Beta going to be? Meaning - I still have to refer to the PHB (and DMG) a lot with the current alpha versions . . . including for the core classes in the alpha version.
Will the Beta be completely inclusive . . . at least as a PHB? (I'd like to look my D&D 3.5 PHB away and start hanging onto the Beta religiously . . . at least until next year.)
I'm curious about this too.
Only player in my group that has not yet fully converted to Alpha is the Ranger/Rogue...
Would like to see Ranger before Saturday (when we play)...
baaaaaards.
I have never played a bard, not even once. Some months ago I started getting the itch to play one but for some reason I just can't bring myself to play it, maybe how you feel that you are suddenly only have 1 available role as a bard and thats a buffer. Probably why i never played a cleric either so i'm not seen as a heal battery.
I would be so ever grateful if bards are given either feats or powers or anything so that they more options other than (i give my team +2 ac). This song of doom seems fun, I wouldn't mind seeing some good debuffers be in their also. And how about some mastery over sonic?!
Ditto on the Ranger. I am playing a ShingleHopping Dwarf Ranger in Crimson Throne.
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How complete is the Beta going to be? Meaning - I still have to refer to the PHB (and DMG) a lot with the current alpha versions . . . including for the core classes in the alpha version.
I'm curious to see whether the beta will tackle the prestige classes from the DMG. I presume that the remaining core classes will be tackled in the final Alpha release, so I wonder whether the prestige classes will get a similar treatment during the Beta phase.
Personally, I'd love to see updated versions of some of these - particularly the assassin, the mystic theurge, and the blackguard.
(For the record, I never liked the magic-heavy version of the assassin presented in 3e. I preferred the flavor of the 1e version, even if it the game mechanics were badly broken. To me, the D&D assassin should be modeled on the classic sword & sorcery assassins from Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar stories).
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baaaaaards.
I have never played a bard, not even once. Some months ago I started getting the itch to play one but for some reason I just can't bring myself to play it, maybe how you feel that you are suddenly only have 1 available role as a bard and thats a buffer. Probably why i never played a cleric either so i'm not seen as a heal battery.
Having played a number of clerics, the "heal battery" only lasts until around level 7 or so. After that, in my experience anyway, you alternate between "pious freight train" and "he/she who makes everybody in the party even better at what they do."
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How complete is the Beta going to be? Meaning - I still have to refer to the PHB (and DMG) a lot with the current alpha versions . . . including for the core classes in the alpha version.I'm curious to see whether the beta will tackle the prestige classes from the DMG. I presume that the remaining core classes will be tackled in the final Alpha release, so I wonder whether the prestige classes will get a similar treatment during the Beta phase.
Personally, I'd love to see updated versions of some of these - particularly the assassin, the mystic theurge, and the blackguard.
(For the record, I never liked the magic-heavy version of the assassin presented in 3e. I preferred the flavor of the 1e version, even if it the game mechanics were badly broken. To me, the D&D assassin should be modeled on the classic sword & sorcery assassins from Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar stories).
Just remember that they're shooting for backwards compatibility, so they wouldn't remove the magic from the assassin, though they might make more options, but personally I think PrCs don't need alot of fixing, except for a few broken ones.
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I'm really hoping that Alpha 3 is out in time for my next Monday session. The party is likely to hit level 4 next week (maybe the week after), and one of my PCs is a gnome druid who plans to multiclass over to bard. I'd hate for him to have to delay a level on that. Not to mention that I'm psyched about the next release. ^_^
Jeremy Puckett
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Any word on if we are still aiming for an end-of-the-week release of Alpha 3? or is it looking like early next week? Not wanting to rush things, just wondering and anxious to see the Bard (my favorite class).
Any more news? rpg.net is running a "Fantasy Review Week" during the week of June 16th through the 21st and I'd like to submit AR3 as one of my reviews.
Looks like the release has been postponed to next week. Darn. My playtest campaign, which is scheduled to start at the end of next week, has 2 ranger characters and a monk, so here's to hoping that the release will be out soon.. ;)
A new ETA, alright!
Thanks for the update.
The Alpha 3 release has been laid out and is in final proofing this weekend. It will be posted during this upcoming week, probably on Wednesday.
Yay!
The Alpha 3 release has been laid out and is in final proofing this weekend. It will be posted during this upcoming week, probably on Wednesday.
Yay!
My playtester running a Ranger is very excited.
I'm interested to see what changes to the monk bard and ranger are, i prefer playing rangers myself. Really looking forward to this one.
The Alpha 3 release has been laid out and is in final proofing this weekend. It will be posted during this upcoming week, probably on Wednesday.
Y'know, I'm finding it really difficult not to try to make love to my cable-modem right now...
...and that left me with an image of your avatar astride some co-ax cable grinding away with that silly grin on his face. Thanks for that image. I had to clean up the Vault I spit out all over my monitor and wait for my laughing to subside just to post this.