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Opinion only, but I would say that what you're "missing" is that you (or your friend) are inserting you own idea of how they should work.
They economics of it in SFS is that you buy a fusion seal at a given level and then sell it back if you no longer have a use for it.
Honestly, though, you're likely to have a handful of different item level weapons, so the advantage of a seal is that you can move it onto a different weapon, say your backup kinetic melee weapon, when you upgrade your, say, primary kinetic ranged weapon to one with a higher item level.
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bump! Official help would be appreciated, GM Blake does provide some good advise but comeon Paizo people! Thirsty you out there?
I am (when am I not?) It's also a weekend following a busy work week.
I can see the concern about this, but with things like Chronicle sheets bumping this up and generally how weapons scale, it's not something I want to shoot an off-the-cuff answer for. I've added it to my "list of concerns," but I wouldn't expect any movement in the immediate future. Probably something we might look at in the next iteration of the Roleplaying Guild Guide.
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If you transfer the fusion to the level 8 weapon, how is the level 1 still fused?
On a similar note. Transferring a fusion (not a seal) can be done for half the price of the new levels seal.
If you wanted to put a level 1 seal on a level 8 weapon. RAW it is cheaper to buy a level 1 and fusion (120 credits + a weapon you probably have already) and transfer it to a level 8 weapon (half of 2300) and keep the backup weapon fused.
Surely this is an unintended mechanic and ripe for abuse.
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The advantage of seals:
I have a laser sword, a cryogun, and a sniper rifle.
I have a bane seal.
I can put the seal on whichever weapon I need for a given encounter.
The advantage of fusions:
I have a level 2 laser with the called fusion,
I upgrade my laser to a level 6 version.
I don't have to waste the fusion, I can move it to the new version.
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Missed that. If that's the case, they have no function, at least in society play. Skip 'em.
For even more fun, transfering an infusion can be done in 10 minutes by anyone with 1 rank in mysticism. So a cheap gun with a level 1 enchant on it makes a better seal than a seal because
1)can go on any weapon with 10 minutes notice
2) is really the only way to enchant anything, since it actually saves you money
3) can scale up infinitely, whereas the seal has an item limit.
Its wonky enough that I have to wonder if its an unintended exploit.
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Yeah, I’m fairly certain it’s unintentional. I suspect that some text got left out or cut and the intention was either:
A) you can’t move a fusion to a weapon with a higher item level than the one it came from - or -
B) you would have to apply “step-up” costs more frequently. (No going straight from item level 1 to item level 10. Gotta pay (half) for each level in between.)
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I think paying half the cost of the difference is the rule. That is also the exploit that you can buy a level 1 fusion, then upgrade it at half the cost of originally installing it on the higher level weapon.
For Kevin Willis, I haven't done the math but I think paying half the cost of each intervening level would still be half the cost of the "jump" difference.
A better solution might be that you have to pay the difference between the cost for a fusion of the level of the new item and the cost for a fusion of the level of the old item (or half the cost for a fusion of the level of the new item, whichever is more).
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Missed that. If that's the case, they have no function, at least in society play. Skip 'em.
This is primarily a space based game. Any mission where you start on Absalom Station and travel anywhere else has at least a day down time built in, it's not as much of a killer as you'd think. So far you would only not be able to transfer a fusion seal in 2 of 8 released regular scenerios (Not counting the pregen special)
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They work for scenario writers provided they allow the 24 hours between finding them and the encounter that would benefit from them.
When they don’t do that, it will be like older scenarios that give you the equipment you needed after you have delt with the danger.
The 24 hour wait really gets in the way of utilizing them.
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one argument for the cheap gun to expensive gun enchant not being an exploit is that it only works with low level enchants, making low level enchants cheaper than higher level ones , which probably should be a thing.
No, it works with high-level fusions too. It requires high-level weapons, but it works.
A powered battleglove (Item Level 10) with a vorpal fusion costs 19,680. Move the fusion to any weapon 17th level or higher - say a molecular rift longsword - and even if you throw away the battleglove it is cheaper than buying a new vorpal fusion for the weapon (normally 40,500 for Weapon Item Level 17).