Why wasn't the Grenadier archetype included in the Adventurer's Guide archetype updates?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

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The Adventurer's Guide made a lot of changes to pre-existing archetypes. Bring them closer to their original description or balancing them.

One archetype that is in much need of being closer to its original description seems to be missing from the lineup, the Alchemist archetype - Grenadier
The Grenadier came from the Pathfinder Society Field Guide the same source at the much discussed Lore Warden.

The main reason is the bold text below. It states that the Grenadier is suppose to be able to drink potions quickly and safely in dangerous situations. Yet none of the Grenadier's archetype features provide for such a benefit.

Given that other archetypes are called out for revision in the Adventurer's Guide, why isn't the Grenadier given the same make over?
Or have some other means such as a new alchemical discovery that provides this missing archetype feature?

Grenadier Description wrote:
Grenadiers train to exercise their talents in the thick of battle, even when not under the influence of their mutagens. They learn methods of combining weapon attacks with their alchemical magic, and sacrifice skill with poisons in order to become more adept at using alchemical bombs or using alchemical items in conjunction with their martial skills. As an unusual side effect of their skill at handling bombs and alchemical items with increased speed, grenadiers master the ability to drink potions, elixirs, and mutagens quickly and safely, without exposing themselves to peril while doing so. A grenadier has the following class features.

Full information on the Grenadier

An underlying question; Why is the revision of older materials so selective? Some materials that are clearly in need of an update are ignored, while others are completely gutted and rebuild from the ground up.

Note that while the popularity of a given material could be an explanation. However, some ignored materials could have been ignored in the first place, due to the fact that they have issues that needed fixing, hence their unpopularity in the first place.


To avoid later confusion, I'll mention now that there is a second version of the Grenadier from the Monster Codex.

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Further clarification, both versions of the Grenadier the Pathfinder Society Field Guide and the Monster Codex version are the same.


^More specifically, looks like any differences in the Monstrous Codex version relative to the Pathfinder Society Field Guide were just for clarification (or an attempt thereof, anyway), unlike the recent rerelease of Lore Warden, which was pretty much a straight nerf.


Secane wrote:
Further clarification, both versions of the Grenadier the Pathfinder Society Field Guide and the Monster Codex version are the same.

The Monster Codex version has a bit of extra text in the Alchemical Weapon section, but otherwise they seem to be the same.

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