Nyfiber Net

[evilnerf]

Less of a question, and more of just pointing out an error. The Nyfiber Net table has a blank on it's special qualities. It should AT LEAST have Entangle, and probably Thrown as well.

[Tali Wah]

Already in the FAQ

"The nyfiber net (page 179) does not list any damage, critical effect, or special properties. What does it do if you hit a target with it?
The nyfiber net has the entangle and thrown weapon special properties. It does no damage, but can entangle a foe."

[evilnerf]

Well, there ya go. Thanks

[Markov Spiked Chain]

Which Armor Class do you think it targets?

Probably KAC, but the rules are silent and some other places use EAC as a sort of "Touch AC" analog. It's not exactly clear that having a lot of armor on makes you less likely to be entangled.

[kaid]

I think it works like a ranged combat maneuver entangle so probably kac +8.

[Zabraxis]

There is no Entangle Combat Maneuver. Entangle is a weapon ability.

As far as which AC to target, KAC is sort of the default unless the weapon deals only energy damage. "But the net doesn't deal any type of damage." True but it doesn't deal any type of energy damage either. Also, Kinetic AC is described as "Your Kinetic Armor Class (KAC) represents the defenses you have against attacks that primarily deal damage as a result of a physical impact" It makes sense that you'd have to physically impact the target with the net to entangle it.

[Venti5]

Okay I can accept that it's KAC go in Pathfinder it's touch AC as in your dexs + 10 and any magical. So let's further the question it's a level 2 item if I add the weapon fusions of returning and called to the net. if I throw it and it grapples the target is the target then dragged back when it returns? then is a swift action I call it to my hand ready to attack and all folded up again. Further since it's a thrown weapon as a fighter if I take the Eldritch Knight Rune and apply to it do I add the magic attack such as for Arcane strike say I was a technomancer. Then is it still hitting KAC or is it EAC? Being a thrown weapon I can add my strength to it correct so it does straight strength damage perhaps non-lethal?

[Ravingdork]

Markov Spiked Chain wrote:

Which Armor Class do you think it targets?

Probably KAC, but the rules are silent and some other places use EAC as a sort of "Touch AC" analog. It's not exactly clear that having a lot of armor on makes you less likely to be entangled.

Been trying to figure this one out myself.