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Pretty self-explanatory; we have half-elves and half-orcs, Dhampir, Fetchlings, Aasimar, Tieflings, Ifrits, Oreads, Undine and Sylphs. Humans are remarkable in their ability to hybridize with...just about everyone. So why are there no half-dwarves?
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We have muls. They're just in dark sun.
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Iv seen this before...Where was it...Ah, here you go.
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There were half-dwarves in "Races of Ansalon".
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So why are there no half-dwarves?
Logistics.
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There were half-dwarves in "Races of Ansalon".
There were also Kender.....
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There were half-dwarves in "Races of Ansalon".There were also Kender.....
So you're saying half-dwarves = kender?
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AM EASY TO MAKE HALF-DWARVES. AM JUST NEED ONE DWARF, ONE VERY-SHARP AXE, AND ONE CLEAN BLOW. EASY PEASY OWLBEAR SQUEEZY, TWO, TWO! HALF-DWARVES!
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Because dwarves reproduce by hatching out of rocks, obviously.
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Because dwarves reproduce by hatching out of rocks, obviously.
One looney goblin says dwarves grow from beard sprouts.
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How would you tell? You'd think it was a stocky short human or tall "thin" dwarf.
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Dwarves are insular and ugly, whereas elves are insular good-looking.
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Humans are half-dwarves. They're the progeny of elf & dwarf parents, but then we started breeding true. Also explains the comparatively short lifespans; we're mutations of nature that were never meant to be.
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In Tolkein's work dwarves were a separate creation by Aule, not the original creator whose name escapes me. Implied was that they might look similar but be quite different under the hood.
He didn't mention or suggest half-dwarves ever (& there's a lot of material Tolkein left behind) and D&D mostly followed his lead.
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Forgotten Realm also had half-dwarves, so I don't see why D&D or Pathfinder wouldn't have them. *shrugs*
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Golarion isn't the Realms. That's a good enough reason for me.
That said, I'm almost positive I've seen half races covered in a third party product.
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You mean Halfbreeds & Hybrids?
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All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
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Q: Why no half-dwarves?
A: Have you ever looked at a dwarf? I mean, really looked. That's why.
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Bastards of Golarion has a side panel on it:
Although humans can have children with many other races, there are limits to this gift. Half-dwarves, half-gnomes, half-halflings, and numerous other combinations are all but unheard of on Golarion. Biological incompatibility is the first and foremost reason that such half-races cannot exist. Simply put, dwarves, gnomes, and others just aren't compatible with other races, even humans.
It continues with 'powerful magic can make it happen', but stresses it's extremely unlikely to happen.
I readily admit other explanations here are more entertaining. ;)
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All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
Point of fact: female dwarves do NOT have beards in Pathfinder, or Starfinder.
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Point of fact: female dwarves do NOT have beards in Pathfinder, or Starfinder.All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
And that's still a tragedy.
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Point of fact: female dwarves do NOT have beards in Pathfinder, or Starfinder.All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
That's what they want you to think. Dwarf marketing is working hard to try and rectify the "no half-dwarves" dilemma.
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And that's still a tragedy.Point of fact: female dwarves do NOT have beards in Pathfinder, or Starfinder.All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
Considering Tolkien's elves didn't have pointed ears, DnD and its derivatives have a habit of going with popular images rather than the deep, well thought out mythologies.
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I thought we called them gnomes?
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Point of fact: female dwarves do NOT have beards in Pathfinder, or Starfinder.All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
{sips jynnan tonnyx} Perhaps whom we perceive as female dwarves are a protrusion into our dimension of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beards, who themselves remain hidden?
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There were half-dwarves in "Races of Ansalon".
And that actually might be part of the reason that Paizo won't have anything to do with them -- that, and the Muls from the Dark Sun setting. Neither sort of half-dwarf is open game content, so Paizo doesn't want to touch that subject. Of course, there is nothing to stop you from using the hybrid race rules in Bastards of Golarion to make a half-dwarf/half-human character -- all you lack is a suggested racial feature to give for the dwarf side.
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Why no half-dwarves?Not enough beer in the world.
Also, standards.
Yes. Dwarves, unlike humans, elves, and orcs, do indeed have standards. ;)
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All of these are good hypotheses, but the real reason there aren't half-dwarves?
Female dwarf beards.
Female dwarves *have* beards, or female dwarves *are* beards?
Also? This sentence no verb. :)
The plot thickens...
Perhaps they come out either human or dwarven. Much like our real-life form of Dwarfism.
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Based on their write-up in Dwarves of Golarion, they don't seem the sort to want to have sex outside of marriages, and tend to be a very "I find my single fellow dwarven life partner and we stay with that through thick and thin" type of society, with little interest in non-dwarves as sexual partners. Individual dwarves might exist as exceptions, but basically:
Dwarves don't screw around like the rest of you sluts.
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OK, it makes sense you cannot cross humans with halflings, gnomes and dwarves. Dwarves climbed up out of the depths of Golarion, and gnomes climbed up out of the first world. I guess halflings are so short and downtrodden that getting anywhere is a climb. It's simple, those three are scalars.
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OK, it makes sense you cannot cross humans with halflings, gnomes and dwarves. Dwarves climbed up out of the depths of Golarion, and gnomes climbed up out of the first world. I guess halflings are so short and downtrodden that getting anywhere is a climb. It's simple, those three are scalars.
So did orcs.
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Ah, but no Ouachitonian,
The Orcs chased the Dwarves from their homes. The Orcs were clearly the Vectors.
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Okay well the answer is obvious: Dwarves find humans kind of gross. Male Dwarves find human women to be too scrawny and far too sickly looking. Not a curve among them! Female Dwarves find human men to be far too fair in the face. Look at all those women-y human men! I mean...most of them don't even have beards!
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Non-sequitur but... do you think some dwarves might bury their honored dead in barrels filled with a special premium beer, like a beer version of a mellification? (except not for the later harvesting part)
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While I am charmed at the idea of a beer bier, I think many will bock at the idea.
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The other way around, wasn't it?Ah, but no Ouachitonian,
The Orcs chased the Dwarves from their homes. The Orcs were clearly the Vectors.
Yes, but the joke won't work that way.
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Non-sequitur but... do you think some dwarves might bury their honored dead in barrels filled with a special premium beer, like a beer version of a mellification? (except not for the later harvesting part)
And waste good drink?
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Non-sequitur but... do you think some dwarves might bury their honored dead in barrels filled with a special premium beer, like a beer version of a mellification? (except not for the later harvesting part)And waste good drink?
I mean, that's all fine and dandy except for the "not for later harvesting" part. I have no problem believing that the Dwarves pickle their honored elders in whisky and mead but don't tell me they don't tap that keg after the funeral.
Can't mourn forever and Grandpa is past needing his packing liquor! I also have no doubt that Dwarven whisky is just basically rocket fuel re-purposed for Starfinder.
^^Yeah, that one.^^
So you're saying half-dwarves = kender?There were half-dwarves in "Races of Ansalon".There were also Kender.....
Sorry, I totally missed this. I was asked off-forum why I ignored a a reasonable question.
And, no, I have no idea why some of my friends monitor my posts.Half Dwarves do not equal Kender. The point is, they are from a quite different setting.
Those who made the choices for what is in and what is out, chose out. They really don't have to justify their choices. If your table wants to put them in, put them in.
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In Tolkein's work dwarves were a separate creation by Aule, not the original creator whose name escapes me. Implied was that they might look similar but be quite different under the hood.
He didn't mention or suggest half-dwarves ever (& there's a lot of material Tolkein left behind) and D&D mostly followed his lead.
Eru/Iluvatar.
Dwarves were created because Aulé became impatient for the children of Iluvatar (elves and men) to awaken. Iluvatar allowed them to exist and gave them life but, because he had intended the elves to be the firstborn race he forced Aulé to keep the dwarves into sleep until the elves had awakened in Middle Earth.
I'm pretty sure Tolkien never considered the option for half dwarves but it should also be noted he never envisioned half elves as a subspecies also. Aragorn and Arwen's son was Eldarion but he was human not elf or half elf in the D&D sense of the species.