My group's soon to start a new gestalt game, and I want to make a kick-arse magic-slinging archer. I'm sold on the zen archer qinggong monk, but I'm not sure what to pair it with. I'm torn between an eldritch archer magus and an empyreal sorcerer that PrC's into arcane archer.
Any advice or other ideas would be appreciated.
So Fighter or any wis based caster would be nice.
Bard is nice. Paladin will wreck something's days. Inquisitor adds quite a few benefits to the Monk too. Urban Bloodrager gives you a boost to Dex if you need it, and Warpriest allows for swift action self-buff spells.
The Empyreal Sorcerer is probably one of the better choices though.
Really you'll want to decided what your main focus is, magic or archery, and which is the back up.
Really you'll want to decided what your main focus is, magic or archery, and which is the back up.
My thought was to focus on archery and use spells mainly for buffing, battlefield control, and utility. I was thinking of the eldritch archer magus or arcane archer mostly for flinging area/touch debuffs downrange.
In that case Sorcerer is pretty ideal. More spells per day, better spell list, and using Empyreal helps out with ability scores.
Inquisitor... Flurry of Bows + Bane... ew...
I would strongly suggest Inquisitor, especially if you can use an Unchained Monk Zen Archer. Evasion + Stalwart, full saves, good AC, great skills & out of combat utility, full BAB if Unchained, what more could you need?
In that case Sorcerer is pretty ideal. More spells per day, better spell list, and using Empyreal helps out with ability scores.
Sweet! Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated!
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I strongly considered inquisitor, but I want a more arcane feel to the character.
I hadn't thought to check out the unchained monk, though. Thanks, Kaouse!
I would strongly suggest Inquisitor, especially if you can use an Unchained Monk Zen Archer. Evasion + Stalwart, full saves, good AC, great skills & out of combat utility, full BAB if Unchained, what more could you need?
Zen Archer and Unchained Monk are incompatible.
Mechanically, a Sohei switch-hitter crossed with a Hex Channeler Witch could flurry longbow with Sohei Weapon Training, flurry Dervish Dance scimitar with Crusader's Flurry, wear a mithral kikko with Arcane Armor Training, and not need much WIS due to having armor. They can get Divine Favor/Power from Strength Patron. Heroism and Arcane Strike also add to combat.
How about unchained monk (zen archer/qinggong)//sage sorcerer 10/arcane archer 10?
Full BAB, all good saves, spells, decent skills, Wisdom synergy, archery tricks up the yin-yang!
How about unchained monk (zen archer/qinggong)//sage sorcerer 10/arcane archer 10?
Full BAB, all good saves, spells, decent skills, Wisdom synergy, archery tricks up the yin-yang!
Wouldn't work because you can't add Zen Archer to an Unchained Monk
I would strongly suggest Inquisitor, especially if you can use an Unchained Monk Zen Archer. Evasion + Stalwart, full saves, good AC, great skills & out of combat utility, full BAB if Unchained, what more could you need?Zen Archer and Unchained Monk are incompatible.
I say just ask your GM.
Diamond Body is a Ki Power, so it's easy to replace.
Everything else is still part of a the regular Unchianed Monk's kit, with the sole exception of Maneuver Training. For that you could give up style strikes (since you're not using unarmed strikes anyway, just like you wouldn't be using maneuvers for a chained Zen Archer).
The Unchained book suggests that none of the previous archetypes should be combined with the unchained monk.
Finally, with the exception of the monk, these classes should work with any of the archetypes from previous books as long as the classes still have the appropriate class features to replace.
Your DM could go against that suggestion, but it was there for a reason.