2h weapon in 1h


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besides titan mauler barbarian is there any way to wield a 2h weapon of an appropriate size in 1h?


I think there is a variant racial ability for tieflings.


went over the entire teifling chart no ability allows 2h weapons in 1h


Spear Dancing Style, into Spear Dancing Spiral, allows you to use quarterstaff feats for your spears and polearms. So you can use Quarterstaff Master to start with a spear or polearm in one hand. Could allow you to use a Nodachi or other polearm if you built towards it. "Spears and Polearms" assume you have Fighter's Weapon Training, which allows you to use any spear or polearm rather than the one you got weapon focus in.

Bladed Brush allows glaives to be wielded with one hand for worshippers of Shelyn.


Lady-J wrote:
went over the entire teifling chart no ability allows 2h weapons in 1h

Wraithstrike was probably thinking of the 16: "You have oversized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty" ability.


Matthew Downie wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
went over the entire teifling chart no ability allows 2h weapons in 1h
Wraithstrike was probably thinking of the 16: "You have oversized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty" ability.

that just allows you to use large weapons not 2h weapons in one hand

Liberty's Edge

Nothing for weapons in general, but plenty of things for specific weapons. Off hand I can think of;

Thunder and Fang (requires a klar in the other hand)
Quarterstaff Master (add Spear Dancing Spiral to extend to more weapons)
Dorn Dergar Master
Bladed Brush
Shield Brace (requires shield in other hand)
Phalanx Soldier 3rd level (requires shield in the other hand)
Ammo Drop
Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Great Terbutje
Lance while mounted or with Natural Jouster


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Dunkerson missed one

Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Katana

Sovereign Court

Also missed the Estoc.


Lady-J wrote:
Matthew Downie wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
went over the entire teifling chart no ability allows 2h weapons in 1h
Wraithstrike was probably thinking of the 16: "You have oversized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty" ability.
that just allows you to use large weapons not 2h weapons in one hand

True but:

A large Scimitar is almost as good as a Falchion.
A large Warhammer is identical to an Earthbreaker.
A large Bastard Sword is better than a Greatsword.

Depends what weapon(s) you're looking at.


MrCharisma wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
Matthew Downie wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
went over the entire teifling chart no ability allows 2h weapons in 1h
Wraithstrike was probably thinking of the 16: "You have oversized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty" ability.
that just allows you to use large weapons not 2h weapons in one hand

True but:

A large Scimitar is almost as good as a Falchion.
A large Warhammer is identical to an Earthbreaker.
A large Bastard Sword is better than a Greatsword.

Depends what weapon(s) you're looking at.

a large bastard sword is still not as good as a large greatsword, im probably just gona take 2 levels into titan mauler barbarian and be done with it just wish there was another way


Titan Fighter


Gauss wrote:
Titan Fighter

titan fighter only allows use of larger weapons


Ahhh right. Thats what I get for going off memory and not re-reading it. Oh well. :)


What exactly are you trying to do?


well the character is using a custom made 2h weapon(its an exotic greatsword) but i want to have a little something up my sleeve for when i cant use a two hands like when im holding something else or in a grapple


Just have a light weapon "sidearm" for when you need to do something with one hand. You can hold your 2H weapon in 1 hand while using your other hand with the light weapon. You won't count as wielding the 2H for things like threatening or AOOs until you regrip it again with both hands.


Texas Snyper wrote:
Just have a light weapon "sidearm" for when you need to do something with one hand. You can hold your 2H weapon in 1 hand while using your other hand with the light weapon. You won't count as wielding the 2H for things like threatening or AOOs until you regrip it again with both hands.

ruins the thematics of the character plus the gold investment in a 2nd weapon would be to much

edit: also doesn't help with i need to carry this person but still attack with my main weapon


If the primary reason for this is dealing with grapples there are other methods that work just as well.

One such method would be Escape Artist +Liberating Command.

I generally recommend ranks in Escape Artist to allow you a very good 'get out of grapple' option when combined with an allied spellcaster who can cast Liberating Command.

Between Grease, Liberating Command, and a decent number of ranks in Escape Artist the groups I am in are pretty much grapple proof.


found a feat by kobold press called lighten weapon book its from is only 6 bucks so i might just get it and use that instead just dont know if i can afford the feat


k so it looks like i can fit the feat into my feat list so i wont need the barbarian archetype

feat progression

1st level noble scion(cha to initiative), skill focus knowledge plains(human alternate trait)
3rd power attack, intimidating prowess(bonus feat)
4th weapon focus(bonus feat)
5th eldritch heritage abyssal
7th furious focus
8th skill focus intimidate(human alternate trait)
9th lighten weapon

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Keep in mind (Grapple)

The weapon would still be Two Handed, and Grappling rules state the need for "light" weapons to be used while grappled.

A lot of folks forget that it is light weapons, not light and one handed weapons.

Light weapons are cheaper and can be just MW weapons if your penny pinching. Perhaps a light mace for those times you need bludgeoning weapons to pass DR?

Be aware also that One Handing any weapon would use one handed damage/effects when you wield it in that way. (Power Attack -1 for +2, for example), just as Two Handing a One Handed weapon used Two Handed damage/effects (Power Attack -1 for +3)

Scarab Sages

Lady-J wrote:
besides titan mauler barbarian is there any way to wield a 2h weapon of an appropriate size in 1h?

Easily, you undersize it. A Medium character can wield a Small 2h weapon in 1h. That's a -2 penalty on attack and a decrease in damage die, but it's otherwise the same weapon.

Really goofy with reach weapons, as they retain the reach property, which is based on your size, not that of the weapon, despite all common sense suggesting it doesn't work like that... But oversized weapons don't increase your reach, so lacking common sense in both directions.


Effortless Lace doesn't quite do what you want, but it is close.


thaX wrote:

Keep in mind (Grapple)

The weapon would still be Two Handed, and Grappling rules state the need for "light" weapons to be used while grappled.

A lot of folks forget that it is light weapons, not light and one handed weapons.

It's light or one handed.

Grapple in combat section.
"Instead of attempting to break or reverse the grapple, you can take any action that doesn’t require two hands to perform, such as cast a spell or make an attack or full attack with a light or one-handed weapon against any creature within your reach, including the creature that is grappling you."


thaX wrote:

Keep in mind (Grapple)

The weapon would still be Two Handed, and Grappling rules state the need for "light" weapons to be used while grappled.

A lot of folks forget that it is light weapons, not light and one handed weapons.

Light weapons are cheaper and can be just MW weapons if your penny pinching. Perhaps a light mace for those times you need bludgeoning weapons to pass DR?

Be aware also that One Handing any weapon would use one handed damage/effects when you wield it in that way. (Power Attack -1 for +2, for example), just as Two Handing a One Handed weapon used Two Handed damage/effects (Power Attack -1 for +3)

its light and 1h weapons in pathfinder cuz the only thing that's banned is anything that needs two hands to do

A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. Grappled creatures cannot move and take a –4 penalty to Dexterity. A grappled creature takes a –2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell or use a spell-like ability must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler’s CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity.


2h weapon in 1h:

Step #1, get Flambard and Bastard Sword proficiencies. Human w/ Military Tradition solves this at 1st.
Step #2, pick up Flambard in one hand and hit foe even though it's a 2 handed weapon.
Step #3, profit.

Flambard, Cost 50 gp Weight 6 lbs, 1d10 (medium); Critical 19-20/x2; S; Special sunder[ +4 bonus on any sunder attempts made against weapons with a wooden haft]; you may use this sword as a bastard sword.


already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h


Lady-J wrote:
already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h

As long as you and your GM know that that is a 3PP feat.


Texas Snyper wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h
As long as you and your GM know that that is a 3PP feat.

as long as the dm owns the book we can use the content weather its paizo or 3pp so when ever i see content i want to use i but the book and give it to the dm so i can use the content


Lady-J wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h
As long as you and your GM know that that is a 3PP feat.
as long as the dm owns the book we can use the content weather its paizo or 3pp so when ever i see content i want to use i but the book and give it to the dm so i can use the content

Wow, I can see that being abused. LOL


Gauss wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h
As long as you and your GM know that that is a 3PP feat.
as long as the dm owns the book we can use the content weather its paizo or 3pp so when ever i see content i want to use i but the book and give it to the dm so i can use the content
Wow, I can see that being abused. LOL

also means the dm can use that content too

Scarab Sages

Lady-J wrote:
Gauss wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
already found a the feat lighten weapon which allows actual 2h weapons to be used in 1h as opposed to 1h weapons pretending to be 2h weapons that you need exotic weapon proficiency to use in 1h
As long as you and your GM know that that is a 3PP feat.
as long as the dm owns the book we can use the content weather its paizo or 3pp so when ever i see content i want to use i but the book and give it to the dm so i can use the content
Wow, I can see that being abused. LOL
also means the dm can use that content too

Yeah, when playing with non-pregenerated material (as in PFS) the best way to balance content is to allow both the players and the GM to use it.

As far as houserules go, I love that one. Buy the GM more books and you can use the content. GM gains a book, and you gain access to the rules within the book.

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