Looking for classes or archetypes that give channel energy at the same strength of cleric. Anyone know of any?
Life Oracles get it, with an amount of channels equal to 1 + Charisma. Less than the Cleric, but since they're not as MAD, it usually ends up way higher.
Paladins get Channels at level 4, though usually they're busy doing other stuff. It also eats up their Lay on Hands.
Other than that, I don't know any classes that get it. Oracle also got a nice archetype for it in the Healer's Handbook, basically folding the Oradin build into an archetype.
A hex channeler witch is fractionally faster if they spend every one of their hexes on it. A shaman with the life spirit (as their base or wandering spirit) or a spirit guide oracle who chooses the life spirit gets channel energy at the same speed as a cleric.
An arcane healer bard is very nearly as fast as a cleric - they channel as a cleric of their level -1.
There's any number of ways of getting a more limited form of channeling which still progresses at the same rate as a cleric. e.g. the wizard necromancy arcane school which can channel only to use command undead or turn undead.
Thanks, if anyone knows of any that Dyspeptic has missed let me know.
More specifically, i'm looking for classes able to channel negative energy or both, but that compiled list of positive channellers may come in handy. So if anyone knows of classes/archetypes that can channel negative (or both) that would be great too :)
Thanks, if anyone knows of any that Dyspeptic has missed let me know.
More specifically, i'm looking for classes able to channel negative energy or both, but that compiled list of positive channellers may come in handy. So if anyone knows of classes/archetypes that can channel negative (or both) that would be great too :)
If you want to channel both, that is exclusively for the Cleric. Neutral alignment, worshipping a neutral deity with the Versatile Channeler feat. See the Envoy of Balance if you want to channel both at the same time.
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Had a bit of a brain storm: If you can use the variant Multiclass to take Cleric, you could qualify for the Versatile Channel feat. You'd have to pick positive or negative @ level 1, which effects your channel later. This should satisfy the requirements and special note of that feat. You'd need channel energy at 1st level too, so get it from another source.
Take Oracle (Spirit Guide) with the life mystery and channel the life spirit, you can get two channel pools (second online at 7th level). Actually, you get a third pool from VMC Cleric, but it is way behind (it will catch up later). If you want a 4th pool of channel, just pick a domain for your VMC cleric that gives a familiar and then take the Adept Channeler feat.
Thanks, if anyone knows of any that Dyspeptic has missed let me know.
More specifically, i'm looking for classes able to channel negative energy or both, but that compiled list of positive channellers may come in handy. So if anyone knows of classes/archetypes that can channel negative (or both) that would be great too :)
A hex channeler witch can channel negative energy. It's not faster than a cleric BTW, that was me thinking they got the ability at level 1. Instead with all non-extra hexes devoted to it they get a hex every even numbered level, which is the same as a cleric of (level-1).
The holy vindicator PrC stacks its class level with any other giving channel energy and gives some bonuses to using channeling too.
what archetypeLife Oracles get it, with an amount of channels equal to 1 + Charisma. Less than the Cleric, but since they're not as MAD, it usually ends up way higher.
Paladins get Channels at level 4, though usually they're busy doing other stuff. It also eats up their Lay on Hands.Other than that, I don't know any classes that get it. Oracle also got a nice archetype for it in the Healer's Handbook, basically folding the Oradin build into an archetype.
Pei Zin Practitioner. Their ability literally counts as lay on hands for effects that work with lay on hands. It is such a shame it doesn't stack with Spirit Guide.
A hex channeler witch can channel negative energy. It's not faster than a cleric BTW, that was me thinking they got the ability at level 1. Instead with all non-extra hexes devoted to it they get a hex every even numbered level, which is the same as a cleric of (level-1).
Gnome fcb?
Bonus Points if you can tell me ways to be healed by negative energy that doesnt involve being a cleric or a certain race.
A hex channeler witch can channel negative energy. It's not faster than a cleric BTW, that was me thinking they got the ability at level 1. Instead with all non-extra hexes devoted to it they get a hex every even numbered level, which is the same as a cleric of (level-1).Gnome fcb?
Bonus Points if you can tell me ways to be healed by negative energy that doesnt involve being a cleric or a certain race.
The gnome FCB looks like it'd work RAW. RAI I suspect would be otherwise.
A rod of the wayang would do it, or a collar of unliving servitude (w/undead servant) would do something similar.
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Oracle of Bones can take a Revelation to gain Negative Energy Affinity. They don't get Channel Energy, but they can get Control Undead and a Channel pool to use only with that through another Revelation. I use their Death's Touch ability as a limited Negative Energy Lay on Hands (1d6+ 1/2 Oracle Level), but that's a third revelation needed..
Black-Blooded Oracle also gains Negative Energy Affinity as part of their curse, so I went Black-Blooded Oracle of Bones.
I think there are some newer Mysteries that can grant Negative Energy Affinity, but I'm not sure.
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there are like 3 or 4 oracle curses that have their downside part of tyhe curse be negative energy affinity
Curse... right. That's what I meant. Black-blooded is slightly different, in that it's an Archetype (that happens to alter Curse). Other than that, I think the curses that grant Negative Energy Affinity are all relatively new, since the release of Horror Adventures.
The new Spiritualist archetype Usher of Law Souls, from Psychic Anthology, can channel positive energy at full level, but only to harm undead and haunts.
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Life Oracles get it, with an amount of channels equal to 1 + Charisma. Less than the Cleric, but since they're not as MAD, it usually ends up way higher.
Paladins get Channels at level 4, though usually they're busy doing other stuff. It also eats up their Lay on Hands.Other than that, I don't know any classes that get it. Oracle also got a nice archetype for it in the Healer's Handbook, basically folding the Oradin build into an archetype.
A paladin of sarenrae with deific obedience can channel with only one use of lay on hands.
Maybe it's super new and I haven't seen it yet, but where is this Solar bloodline for sorcerer?
That makes way more sense.
That makes way more sense.Maybe it's super new and I haven't seen it yet, but where is this Solar bloodline for sorcerer?I think he meant the wildblooded Empyreal Bloodline who gets Channel instead of Wings.
But only once and at level 9.
There is also a Solar Mystery for Oracles....
The solar bloodline is from Qadira, Jewel of the East. Hope that makes sense :)
Maybe it's super new and I haven't seen it yet, but where is this Solar bloodline for sorcerer?I think he meant the wildblooded Empyreal Bloodline who gets Channel instead of Wings.
But only once and at level 9.
There is also a Solar Mystery for Oracles....
Solar Mystery for Oracles does not provide any channeling options.
I asked this question in the rules forum but didn't recieve a response... since my character build is a multiclass of several of these classes, wearing a phylactery of positive channeling (eventually ending up in Holy Vindicator to boost all the channel pools), I figured this thread might be the best place to ask:
1) When multiclassing with multiple channel pools, and a cleric class has Sun and/or Glory domains, do the domain granted powers function on _all_ channel pools or just the cleric's? (there were answers to that one in other threads, but they were admittedly guesses; they said granted powers work on all pools)
2) Same situation, but now the cleric is one of the new archetypes: Angelfire Acolyte. Does the new "dazzle all affected non-good for one round" ability work for all channel pools, or just the cleric channel pool?
also, Shaman Spirit Warden archetype gets a second channel pool earlier than Witch Doctor, but it's only for harming undead.
The Witch Hex Channeler should not be overlooked for a two level dip because it has an oft overlooked feature of channeling "from herself or *her familiar*" (no range limit mentioned for the familiar channel energy; and the next paragraph seems to contrdict this).
I asked this question in the rules forum but didn't recieve a response... since my character build is a multiclass of several of these classes, wearing a phylactery of positive channeling (eventually ending up in Holy Vindicator to boost all the channel pools), I figured this thread might be the best place to ask:
1) When multiclassing with multiple channel pools, and a cleric class has Sun and/or Glory domains, do the domain granted powers function on _all_ channel pools or just the cleric's? (there were answers to that one in other threads, but they were admittedly guesses; they said granted powers work on all pools)
2) Same situation, but now the cleric is one of the new archetypes: Angelfire Acolyte. Does the new "dazzle all affected non-good for one round" ability work for all channel pools, or just the cleric channel pool?
1) I see no reason why the Sun and/or Glory domains would not work on any positive channeling you perform, regardless of what class it came from. Evidence to support my conclusion, the Orc bloodline for a sorcerer. The bonus damage effects ANY spell that character casts, not just sorcerer spells.
2) Can't help you with that one. I can't find it on the online resource and have no idea what book it is in. However, if it simply says 'whenever you channel positive energy' like the domain abilities, it would work on any channel pool.
Why oh why with the channeling!?!?.... Put your stats and feats to better use!
Why oh why with the channeling!?!?.... Put your stats and feats to better use!
There are reasons. A devoted healer in a potentially undead heavy campaign; with very low (rolled) physical stats... With Life Links, channel foci, etc, the more channels and lay on hands available, the more tightly focused variability.
1) I see no reason why the Sun and/or Glory domains would not work on any positive channeling you perform, regardless of what class it came from. Evidence to support my conclusion, the Orc bloodline for a sorcerer. The bonus damage effects ANY spell that character casts, not just sorcerer spells.
Thanks!
2) Can't help you with that one. I can't find it on the online resource and have no idea what book it is in. However, if it simply says 'whenever you channel positive energy' like the domain abilities, it would work on any channel pool.
Thanks again! I guess this will make healing our non-good party members interesting. :)
FYI, According the d20pfsrd:
Channel Angelfire (Su)
An angelfire apostle must be of good or neutral alignment and must choose to channel positive energy, even if his deity is neutral or if he is not devoted to a particular deity. When an angelfire apostle channels positive energy, affected nongood creatures are dazzled for 1 round, with no saving throw for this effect, in addition to experiencing the normal effects of channel energy.
This ability alters channel energy.
Looks like it should work, but I wouldn't be able bring myself to care about inflicting the dazzled condition for one round.