Kamiizumi Nobutsuna |
In "PATHFINDER SOCIETY ROLEPLAYING GUILD GUIDE" (Season 8) P.6
"The player can use the pregenerated character’s funds—including selling her gear at half price—to pay for these spellcasting services. In addition, the player can contribute the associated Roleplaying Guild character’s resources (gp and Prestige Points) to this end.
The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gp before spending the pregenerated character’s wealth in this way, depending on her level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
One time, I use a Pregenerated Characters and sold its weapon, wants to bought some scroll and Adventuring Gear ,
but my GM said "You can't sold its equipment to buy new item"
"Why? The PG just said buy「spellcasting services」, not scroll or other gear"
"I remember a PFS's leadship said you can't...but I forgot where......"
My question is : Can I sold Pregenerated Character's equipment and buy scroll or other equipment?
or my GM are right, but where the rule?
Chess Pwn |
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It was clarified in previous guides and is slated to be readded in the 8.1 guide. You can't sell pregen gear for anything other than resolving issues at the end.
Any equipment that’s listed on the pregenerated character sheet may only be sold to clear their own conditions during the play of a sanctioned event
'Eli' Elisande Verdigris |
Which is definitely an issue, because there have been at least two situations (with GM approval) pre-8 that some 'useless' pregen gear was sold back to get *essential* gear for the scenario that I can remember, the sort of gear that if not acquired could potentially lead TO said resurrection costs.
Cold weather gear and a climbing kit come to mind for one such scenario, a *shield* for a martial type in a module in another...
pauljathome |
Just bear in mind that you only get half price for it. Usually you are better off using what you have.
Mostly to illustrate my contempt for the concept of magical studded leather I've sold a pregens magical studded leather to buy a mithril chain shirt at a small profit.
Everybody at Paizo has to realize that any character buying magical studded leather is an idiot :-).
With the occassional edge case for druid with wooden studs, or somebody who values aesthetics over survival
pauljathome |
Cold weather gear and a climbing kit come to mind for one such scenario, a *shield* for a martial type in a module in another...
I've heard rumours that some GMs ignore the rules a little in cases like this where they lead to obviously absurd results and allow the pregens to have totally essential equipment.
graywulfe |
Kevin Willis wrote:Just bear in mind that you only get half price for it. Usually you are better off using what you have.
Mostly to illustrate my contempt for the concept of magical studded leather I've sold a pregens magical studded leather to buy a mithril chain shirt at a small profit.
Everybody at Paizo has to realize that any character buying magical studded leather is an idiot :-).
With the occassional edge case for druid with wooden studs, or somebody who values aesthetics over survival
Most of my characters have magical studded leather.
pauljathome |
Honestly had never noticed that. I may have to keep that in mind going forward. That said I never have to worry about completely losing my armor if we encounter a rust monster... :P
+1 studded vs mithril is essentially a wash.
But its at higher levels that the difference becomes more and more significant.
Plus mithril is just cooler :-)
Ascalaphus Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden |
TimD |
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Which is definitely an issue, because there have been at least two situations (with GM approval) pre-8 that some 'useless' pregen gear was sold back to get *essential* gear for the scenario that I can remember, the sort of gear that if not acquired could potentially lead TO said resurrection costs.Cold weather gear and a climbing kit come to mind for one such scenario, a *shield* for a martial type in a module in another...
I know in the past, I've sold Seelah's heavy shield to replace it with a light shield so I could actually use her LoH in combat.
David knott 242 |
graywulfe wrote:
Most of my characters have magical studded leather.Why?
I'm presuming that you realize that mithril chain shirts are cheaper and better?
Unless you have a Dex of exactly 20 or 21.
David knott 242 |
Then it would be +7 for mithral studded leather armor (which apparently is a thing according to the Game Mastery Guide), thus raising the critical Max Dex values to the less likely 24-25 range.
BretI Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Minneapolis |
Does Mithral Studded Leather even work?
Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral.
Studded Leather: Similar to leather armor, this suit is reinforced with small metal studs.
It sounds like Studded Leather is primarily made of leather.
Pirate Rob |
There is no dex score that makes darkleaf (or mithral, if it exists) studded leather provide more AC than mithral chain shirt.
+1 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 4
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 5
+2 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 5
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 6
+3 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 6
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 7
+4 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 7
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 8
+5 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 8
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 9
+6 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 9
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 10
+7 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 10
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 10
+8 Dex
Darkleaf Studded Leather = AC 10
Mithril Chain Shirt = AC 10
Darkleaf studded leather is 250gp cheaper though and provides the same AC at +7 or higher.
Nefreet |
The items in the GameMastery Guide are explicitly not legal, unfortunately.
Otherwise everyone would ditch their Mithral Buckler in favor of cheaper Darkwood.
And nothing's wrong with Studded Leather. Sometimes you're going for a certain look.
Also, a Mithral Shirt is 10lbs, not 12.5
(matters a lot for some characters)
p-sto |
I could see how selling pregen gear could be abused but at the same time I do think there are few pregens so egregious that if an inexperienced player is unfortunate enough to choose them I'm willing to bend the rules.
But on the other hand I have also seen table cooperation go a long way to help out players with pregens before. One time I was at a table where we pitched in to get Lirianne more adamantine bullets after the player playing her blew through her allotment in the first encounter of the scenario.