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Printable Inner Sea Map (3.67 MB)
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An oddity: the only link to this map seems to be this one, on these very forums. There does not seem to be a link to this map on your website.
An oddity: the only link to this map seems to be this one, on these very forums. There does not seem to be a link to this map on your website.
It was more or less an experiment to show what was possible once you pulled in all the map data. To turn it into something I'd actually distribute, I'd have to spend a lot more time on it.
Not that I'm against the idea, mind you, it's just that making a quality map is a huge undertaking, especially on that size and scale.
I had a tough time making it fit because there are a number of inconsistencies between that map at what is in the Inner Sea World Guide. The Lake of Mists and Veils is shaped differently, and several locations and cities don't line up where the two maps overlap. But there's a good argument to be made for finishing it up.
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Really amazing work!
I noticed that Riverton, while being listed as a part of the "southern River Kingdoms" is inside Galt's political border on your map. It's hard to tell from the ISWG map, but if it's true of Riverton then perhaps Galt's border runs parallel to, but not including the southeastern shore of Lake Kallas.
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I had a tough time making it fit because there are a number of inconsistencies between that map at what is in the Inner Sea World Guide. The Lake of Mists and Veils is shaped differently, and several locations and cities don't line up where the two maps overlap. But there's a good argument to be made for finishing it up.
I see what you're talking about. The mountain range in the ISWG ends early in the south and on a different side of Claw Point in the north, for example. The Lake is thinner on the Iobarian map, as well, although otherwise the major bays and peninsulas are in the right locations, assuming the map's western edge occurs in the middle of Claw Point.
The map of the Dvezda Marches in Maiden, Mother, Crone gives a scale, since the one Varnhold Vanishing does not.
This map by Narolas has tried to conglomerate the two, mostly by assuming that the ISWG just neglected to include the Hills of Nomen entirely.
Confirmed, in the Guide to the River Kingdoms there is an expanded map that puts Galt's political border many miles from the southeastern shore of Kallas Lake.
Thanks! I don't have any source books that cover this area in detail so the result is sloppy borders. I'll add it to the list of things to fix.
It's almost like Google Maps did Golarion . . . .
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Any plans to update this once the full world map in the LOWG releases?
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I am eager to see what develops. The short answer is "yes". The long answer is, "I sure hope nothing breaks too badly."
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There is a world map in the Core Rulebook that you may want to look at as a sanity check on the sizes and shapes of continents other than Avistan. Of course, since it fits on half a page, it doesn't give much in the way of detail.
There is a world map in the Core Rulebook that you may want to look at as a sanity check on the sizes and shapes of continents other than Avistan. Of course, since it fits on half a page, it doesn't give much in the way of detail.
I will check it out. Thanks!
Paizo designers have been both following and contributing to this project in all sorts of ways so I have reason to be confident that any changes will be evolutionary and not revisionary. However, worst case, I'd simply split the data sets and let people choose Golarion v1 vs v2.
It's actually a good opportunity for them to make changes and reconcile existing conflicts so even "worst case" wouldn't be a bad thing. :)
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I have my core rulebook PDF and am working with the main image, which is either unprojected or something Mercator-ish. My initial impression is, "A map! You gave us a world map!" And I can't thank Paizo enough for that.
My second impression is, "Not bad!" The rough placement of continents we made under James' guidance got things pretty close to their vision. Obviously there are some diffrences in shapes and such, but by and large, land masses were in the right place.
My third impression is, "I'll probably end up with Golarion v2". Tian Xia is a bit farther north assuming the original guidance of Magnimar being somewhere close to Seattle but shiftable towards Portland. But that's OK! This is all very workable. And, I needed a new project, anyway. ;)
I'm not ready to put up any images yet--my employer expects me to work on the day PF2E is released for some reason--and it will take more than a couple of days to digest everything, anyway.
Cool project, and I think it inspired the new world map.
I have my core rulebook PDF and am working with the main image, which is either unprojected or something Mercator-ish. My initial impression is, "A map! You gave us a world map!" And I can't thank Paizo enough for that.
My second impression is, "Not bad!" The rough placement of continents we made under James' guidance got things pretty close to their vision. Obviously there are some diffrences in shapes and such, but by and large, land masses were in the right place.
My third impression is, "I'll probably end up with Golarion v2". Tian Xia is a bit farther north assuming the original guidance of Magnimar being somewhere close to Seattle but shiftable towards Portland. But that's OK! This is all very workable. And, I needed a new project, anyway. ;)
Based on an extraction of the world map from the PDF put on a standard sphere in 3dsMax set to 36 segments, here's how the projection works out:
UVW Export PNGPNG was exported at the same image size as the map in the PDF, so the ratio is accurate to that image. Judging from the hemisphere maps under the main map, the UVW projection should be accurate. Hope that helps!
I started this way, too, assuming that the map was unprojected (latitutde/longitude) but that puts Magnimar around 40 degrees N latitude which moves it south of the Oregon/California border. So either this has to be a cylindrical projection, or unprojected with the top and bottom 10 degrees of the map cut off.
or unprojected with the top and bottom 10 degrees of the map cut off.
I didn't think about this first before writing it. Assuming the above shifts things in the wrong direction.
I just tried a document size adjustment that made it a perfect 2:1 ratio by adding height and filled in the blank by adding to the southern ice cap. On my 3d rendering, that seemed to push Avistan into the same latitudes as US/Canada (assuming the 3d skin of the Earth I downloaded was accurate). Ioberia sits about the same as Quebec, which places Brevoy/River Kingdoms about the same as the Mississippi watershed. Climate-wise, that fits - especially with the pre-industrial earth temperatures. Elevation and/or magic would explain glaciation that close to the Lake of Mists and Veils. It does make the Crown of the World about the size of Antarctica, maybe slightly smaller (especially under the ice).
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unprojectedWhat does this term mean? Google was of no help.
Unprojected data is data with no coordinate transformation. It's generally used to refer to data where the coordinates are latitude and longitude. In such a map, the graticule is a square grid, as lines of latitude and longitude are equally spaced in both directions. It's a lot like an equirectangular projection, only your coordinates are angular (degrees, minutes, seconds) instead of cartesian.
It would have been more correct for me to call it "equirectangular" instead of "unprojected". I blame it on trying to do math at 7:30am.
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OK. I have something that works. If we assume the world map in the Core Rulebook is a Gall Stereographic projection, which is like Mercator, only with more controlled distortion (this is a "compromise" projection that does not try to preserve angles or areas), with the bottom edge at 81 deg S latitude and the top edge at 90 deg N, then we get a map that roughly fits the globe we've been using up until now except in Tian Xia, and of course in unmapped areas. Tian Xia has to shift north, but that seems to be the deliberate intent here due to some reshaping of the Crown of the World.
Most important, this puts Magnimar at about 48.9 degrees N which would be around Bellingham, WA, while keeping the Mana Wastes fairly close to the Tropic of Cancer (Mana Wastes around 22 deg N, vs 23.6 deg N, so a little farther south than it should be). It also keeps the Path of Aganhei from moving north of the mountains on the Crown (though on this projection, the path runs through them).
Here's a map image with the old continent outlines overlaid.
I can't really do better than this. Tweaking the projection to fix one area messes up another. So I'm going to call this "good enough". Meaning, good enough to redraw the unmapped continents using this map and fit them into the existing maps. That's more than good enough for "Golarion v1" IMHO.
For Golarion V2, Tian Xia will have to be re-registered to sit further north in order to match this new map. I am tempted to wait until the Lost Omens World Guide is released before I make any significant changes.
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I am tempted to wait until the Lost Omens World Guide is released before I make any significant changes.That's probably for the best, as the World Guide should also include political boundaries whereas the CRB only contains topography.
I would concur with that. We got confirmation at the 4 p.m. Gen Con panel that the Lost Omens World Guide will contain more detailed maps of the areas outside the Inner Sea region than we got in the core rulebook.
I just wish we could get our hands on that Golarion globe that they showed once again.
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Agree! As I mentioned in Twitch chat, I'd buy a physical Golarion globe if they produced and sold one or partnered with a company that did.I am tempted to wait until the Lost Omens World Guide is released before I make any significant changes.That's probably for the best, as the World Guide should also include political boundaries whereas the CRB only contains topography.I would concur with that. We got confirmation at the 4 p.m. Gen Con panel that the Lost Omens World Guide will contain more detailed maps of the areas outside the Inner Sea region than we got in the core rulebook.
I just wish we could get our hands on that Golarion globe that they showed once again.
Do they actually have a proper globe?
I'd probably buy a Golarion beach ball if they sold one.
I have twice seen that globe in Twitch videos. I am pretty sure that it is just a digital effect, not a physical object.
I'm guessing it's pretty expensive to print a large globe or customize a full beach ball. I did some poking around online this afternoon looking for services that do it. The latter was mostly logos, and the former was "email or call for a quote". I take that as a bad sign. :)
There is software on the web that will take a cylindrical projection and spit out gore strips. The hard part is sizing your print to fit the diameter of whatever you chose for your target globe.
Edited to add: I would love for one of the results of this project to be downloadable gore strips of Golarion so people can make their own globes at home.
I would concur with that. We got confirmation at the 4 p.m. Gen Con panel that the Lost Omens World Guide will contain more detailed maps of the areas outside the Inner Sea region than we got in the core rulebook.
Also, after reading through the Lost Omens section of the Core rule book, it looks like there are a handful of new countries in the Inner Sea region, too.
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Edit: Minor labeling tweaks
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Printable gore strips to make your own globe at home. (This is a quick-and-dirty image. To do it right, the labels need to be larger at the poles so they scale correctly when split like this).
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Not /yet/ but my fingers are crossed. They were showing off their digital globe and I suggested that they produce a real, physical globe and if so, I'd buy one. A number of others indicated they would as well. Seems like a fun, niche, product that hardcore fans would love to use and perhaps show off. All that said, it's 100% wishful thinking on my part at this point.Agree! As I mentioned in Twitch chat, I'd buy a physical Golarion globe if they produced and sold one or partnered with a company that did.I am tempted to wait until the Lost Omens World Guide is released before I make any significant changes.That's probably for the best, as the World Guide should also include political boundaries whereas the CRB only contains topography.I would concur with that. We got confirmation at the 4 p.m. Gen Con panel that the Lost Omens World Guide will contain more detailed maps of the areas outside the Inner Sea region than we got in the core rulebook.
I just wish we could get our hands on that Golarion globe that they showed once again.
Do they actually have a proper globe?
I'd probably buy a Golarion beach ball if they sold one.
I've been waiting for a physical globe since Erik Mona said they would look into it if they sold enough Gazetteers back in 2007...
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Gosh but these creations are things of beauty.
Do you happen to have a version without labels?
Thank you! I aim to please. Here's a rectilinear image of the world without labels. With this, you should be able to plug it into Map To Globe to make a globe, and into Mike Wisniewski's Globus Map Projector to make the gore strips, or to reproject it to another view (such as the Robinson projection I've been using). Note that this is a lower resolution image than the ones I made with labels, above, so the gore strips will be kinda small. I'll get a higher res image uploaded soon.
Wow, Casmaron is huge.
I wonder how the Padishah Empire work given if it's capital is at the eastern side of the continent and Qadira is it's western border march, it puts Taldor in its glory to shame.
Vudra makes less sense climate wise to be India like given its position, if it is the large center peninsula and not the one pointing at Tian Xia.
And the southern jungles of Tian Xia are a lot hotter than what its position on the Tropic of Capricorn would entail.
Of course, given the potential answer of 'magic did it', I'll let it slide but it still boggles the mind.
On a positive note, a lot of potential places to explore now. Especially with Sarusan having a proper shape and location.
Qadira is the westernmost part of the Padishah Empire, not the easternmost.
Qadira is the westernmost part of the Padishah Empire, not the easternmost.
Whoops. Fixed.
Did they give at least a vague sense of borders for the Padishah Empire other than roughly the middle part of Casmaron?
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Thank you! I aim to please. Here's a rectilinear image of the world without labels.Gosh but these creations are things of beauty.
Do you happen to have a version without labels?
I appreciate it immensely, but I was hoping for the Robinson.
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I wonder how the Padishah Empire work given if it's capital is at the eastern side of the continent and Qadira is it's western border march, it puts Taldor in its glory to shame.
Qadira is called a "Satrap," and if that doesn't give an indication of Kelesh's governance structure I don't know what does.
Also, while I don't disagree with the bold (Avistan is backwards compared to everywhere else in the world), it might pay to remember that much of Kelesh's interior seems to be desert - and Rovagug-spawn-infested desert, if I remember my lore right.
I wonder how the Padishah Empire work given if it's capital is at the eastern side of the continent and Qadira is it's western border march, it puts Taldor in its glory to shame.Qadira is called a "Satrap," and if that doesn't give an indication of Kelesh's governance structure I don't know what does.
Also, while I don't disagree with the bold (Avistan is backwards compared to everywhere else in the world), it might pay to remember that much of Kelesh's interior seems to be desert - and Rovagug-spawn-infested desert, if I remember my lore right.
I mean the potential size of the whole Empire.
A good chuck of land above Iblydos would be cursed desert.
Given that Kelesh appear to be a mix of Persia with some Mongol Empire, in my opinion.
There's two potential places of the capital.
Either the area between Iblydos and the tiny circular lake with an island in it or in the Tropic of Cancer area above the lake east to the lake with the island on it.
Either way, it implies that Kelesh is a lot bigger than Taldor at its greatest in land area.
Qadira is the westernmost part of the Padishah Empire, not the easternmost.
Whoops. Fixed.
Did they give at least a vague sense of borders for the Padishah Empire other than roughly the middle part of Casmaron?
No borders are shown for it in the Core Rulebook, so all we know is that this empire is bigger than any current Avistani nation.
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Qadira is the westernmost part of the Padishah Empire, not the easternmost.
Whoops. Fixed.
Did they give at least a vague sense of borders for the Padishah Empire other than roughly the middle part of Casmaron?
No borders are shown for it in the Core Rulebook, so all we know is that this empire is bigger than any current Avistani nation.
It's probably bigger than Avistan, full stop.
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I appreciate it immensely, but I was hoping for the Robinson.
Edit: Minor labeling tweaks
Suddenly, I just realized that Golarion looks an awful lot like it is in the middle part of having its continents breaking up from a supercontinental stage. Or maybe coming together, but the relative lack of high coastal mountains, coastal volcanoes, and island arcs seems to argue against that.
Beautiful lat-long maps, having the coordinates is super helpful for determining climate and certain distances.
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Beautiful lat-long maps, having the coordinates is super helpful for determining climate and certain distances.
And the sun's rise and set times.
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This is an incredible thread.