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Lacking Pathfinder rules for the subject, I looked into real world studies on the subject.
On a daily basis, a cow produces an average of 70 pounds of milk (8 gallons) a day. Compared to the going price of half a pound for 5cp, that means they produce 35sp worth of milk on a daily basis.
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And if milking a cow by hand takes 15 minutes twice a day... that's around three and a half ounces of milk per round, if my math isn't horribly wrong.
What I wouldn't give to know why you're asking this...
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They are going to play a farmer, of course. Commoner adventurer with at least 20 cows.
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An infinite amount of created demiplanes, with an infinite amount of cows, and an infinite amount of unseen servants tending to the cows.
Still probably not the most efficient use of a wizard's time.
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0.5lb is 5cp, so 1lb is 10cp (1sp), so 70lb is 700cp (70sp (7gp) )...
Yeah, I think I may have misplaced my brain today. ^^;
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Imagine an archmage who just travels from town to town, offering farmers small fortunes in exchange for their cows. Slowly cornering the cow market, crafting infinite demiplanes for them to roam and be milked.
This should be the next Pathfinder AP.
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I guess when you're a level 20 wizard who is immortal in every sense of the word, you have plenty of time to burn.
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I would unironically love an AP villain who really was just a bored OP wizard with time to burn.
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Hi, Anarac! I'm no cow expert, but I was recently talking to a rancher I know. He told me this:
"Yup. The cow must succeed at the Craft DC, spend 8 hours each day nonstop producing milk, and consume resources equal to 1/3 the price of said milk."
Hope this helps! :D
I imagine in a universe that has magic and such there definitely are strange markets.
I remember in runescape when people started using bones as money because a guild bought up and took control of basically every place you could get bones from and they already had a huge share of the economy. so they just decided one day to only accept tradings in bones.
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Um, hi, former Runescape player here. That's literally impossible. "Bones" come from essentially every creature in the game. When you take multiple servers into account, (Runescape has over a hundred) we're talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of NPCs that you'd have to spawncamp to "control every source of bones". You'd have to camp every one of the hundreds of instances of chickens on a farm, every one of the hundreds of instances of Goblin Warrior trotting around Draynor Village. Every Man, every Woman, every Gnome riding a Terrorbird safespotting a Khazard Guard. We're talking one of the most important and common resources in the game. It might have been possible in Runescape Classic, but even then, you'd be more likely to have luck with a more limited resource. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Big Bones? Or maybe Monkey Bones?
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oh god
this game was so dumb
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did I just write a whole f#$+ing paragraph nitpicking Runescape trivia.
Bedtime for KC.
Um, hi, former Runescape player here. That's literally impossible. "Bones" come from essentially every creature in the game. When you take multiple servers into account, (Runescape has over a hundred) we're talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of NPCs that you'd have to spawncamp to "control every source of bones". You'd have to camp every one of the hundreds of instances of chickens on a farm, every one of the hundreds of instances of Goblin Warrior trotting around Draynor Village. Every Man, every Woman, every Gnome riding a Terrorbird safespotting a Khazard Guard. We're talking one of the most important and common resources in the game. It might have been possible in Runescape Classic, but even then, you'd be more likely to have luck with a more limited resource. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Big Bones? Or maybe Monkey Bones?
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oh god
this game was so dumb
yeah, but here's the thing, they literally bought bones on the market for a ton of GP. bones became more common than gold pieces circulating.
so basically it wasn't the guild spawn camping or anything but more like they deflated the value of gold and raised the value of bones so much that bones were used as a more stable form of currency for a month or so.
This reminds me of what happened at ine point in TF2. It was during a time in which I had stopped playing, but at ine point so many people had bought up so much of one type of base currency in the TF2 community (I think it was earbuds), that the lower currencies had horrendously inflated to the point that they were utterly worthless. These were keys, mind you. The economy basically crashed, and drastic measure needed to be taken in order to restabilze the economy.
I had left at that point so I was entirely absent for it and don't even know what they did, but it was definitely on Valve's end that the economy had to be fixed.
yeah, runescape I believe now has a professor of economics on hand, and several other MMOs do now as well.
An infinite amount of created demiplanes, with an infinite amount of cows, and an infinite amount of unseen servants tending to the cows.
Still probably not the most efficient use of a wizard's time.
depends- are they feeding a baby god? Is that why you need infinite milk?
Raising a god seems like a nice side project for a wizard. It is like having an animal companion- getting a slightly weaker buddy to handle some of your problems while you do other things.
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0.5lb is 5cp, so 1lb is 10cp (1sp), so 70lb is 700cp (70sp (7gp) )...
Yeah, I think I may have misplaced my brain today. ^^;
and cattle cost 50gp each.... Remove feed and equipment costs (stabling is 6sp / day, feed is 5 cp / day, remember these costs don't stop when you go out adventuring, so you either need to pay someone to milk the or lower milk production when you get back) for one milk cow were talking 100gp up front ( for a mating pair) and 1gp a day or so. So you break even around day 20 if nothing unexpected happens like a magical beast eating your livestock or you farmhand...
It should be noted- th 70 pounds of milk is with modern figures.
Pathfinder is...what? Late middle ages, early renaissance? The animal husbandry and general logistical techniques would just not be as developed.
Modern cows benefit from the vast improvements in farming technology and techniques, which allow for the greater yields of corn, hay, etc. Material used by the cows to produce their milk.
Furthermore, the modern cow has spent far more time with advanced selective breeding techniques. So they are well bred for their yield. Meanwhile, the average serf might be lucky to even have a cow, let alone a perfect uber cow made by 'milking' a bull so that its can father thousands of calves in one go.
And lets not get into things like modern medicine (where a lot of out vaccines go to cows because we stuff them with too much corn, and that makes their stomach bacteria lose balance).
Just have a moouid cast create milk at will all day.
so you're saying modern cows are masterwork.
Okay, so if a cow is 50gp, then a masterwork cow would be, what, 100gp? Ta~da: modern cow.
Yes, modern cows get a +2 on craft milk checks.
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Does this mean they're wearing MW leather? *1st level adventurers rush every cow in Golarion*
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Operation Cash-Cow gogogo
After that, are you moving onto phase two of project milk-run?
It's the final cowntdown!
Is no one going ask about water/milk disparity?
These cow puns have to stop. It is udder madness.
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Step 1: Collect cows
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit!
Isn't that the logic of cow rustling bandits that get killed by level 1 adventurers?
Hmm, now i want a village leader to give the pc's a quest to rescue their cows, but really he's lying and they are just the cow rustling bandits now
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These cow puns have to stop. It is udder madness.
WE WILL NOT BE COWED INTO SILENCE! THIS IS A MOOVEMENT YOU CANNOT STOP!
Sorry. Maybe I over-reacted. I hoof no beef with you, Snowblind. Ungulate you steer your course and I'll go mine; to err is humoon, to forgive bovine.
Is no one going ask about water/milk disparity?
Fish are finear, cows quadrapedic!
What, so this thread gets to stay in Rules Questions, but mine gets mooved?
I like that the first post has gone. Prepare for thread deletion.
They were moved and merged, not deleted.
because we had like a half dozen cow threads going on.
They were moved and merged, not deleted.because we had like a half dozen cow threads going on.
it was really weird.
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it was really weird.They were moved and merged, not deleted.because we had like a half dozen cow threads going on.
With that many threads it got impossible to make oneself herd.
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Moove us as many times as you want, we will not be cowed into silence!
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It behooves me to say this is all a bunch of bull.
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Rubs hooves together in anticipation.
Good, good! it's only a matter of time until i catch the appetizers!
