Scared Fist Flurry: Which is Which?


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So i was reading through the Scared Fist archetype of the Warpriest, and its flurry of blows class feature reads as such:

Flurry of Blows (Ex): At 1st level, a sacred fist can make a flurry of blows attack as a full-attack action. This ability works like the monk ability of the same name, except the sacred fist's attack bonus from warpriest levels does not count as his warpriest level. This ability replaces sacred weapon.

Now the bit about "This ability works like the monk ability of the same name" is were i throw my hands in the air as i believe when this book came out the Unchained book had yet to come out, and as such there was only one Flurry of blows.

Now i do believe RAI the flurry its referring is the CORE version...however Pathfinder is a very much RAW system so since there are now TWO flurries i can't help but to wonder if using the other is even an option.

Also I'm asking for PFS.


This is a non-problem. There is a class called Monk, and a class called Unchained Monk.

The ability specifies the former.

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Go with Core unless told to use Unchained.


Nope, it's definitely just the core rule book's flurry of blows.

It's worth noting that since they changed how flurry of blows works for the sacred fist, and changed how the brawling enchant works (only on light armor, not even amulet of mighty fists) that you are actually better off playing a standard warpriest who makes unarmed strikes their sacred weapon. You will have better AC and end up doing more damage and can still take TWF feats to end up with the same number of attacks. When your class level did count as your BAB you got an extra attack compared to just TWF, but now you don't get that.


To add to what I said before, a Sacred Fist loses the normal weapon and armor proficiency for a set of second rate weapon proficiency and comes with penalties if you become encumbered or wear armor.

A Sacred Fist gets a dodge bonus to AC and wisdom to AC, which in the long run can be better than wearing armor, but at least at early levels is worse. Especially since you can start off wearing medium armor and transition to mithral full plate (depending on dex), you lose some speed but gain a lot of AC much earlier.

Flurry of Blows without your BAB counting as your HD just means you get all the TWF feats for free, and a bit earlier than you could take them by just taking the feats. However, there is not any real advantage here.

Blessed Fortitude is cool, as an Inquisitor I loved Stalwart (which is similar) but this alone isn't reason to take the archetype.

The bonus style feats are more restrictive than just taking the feats with your regular bonus feats, so you lose options.

I could go on, but overall making a Sacred Fist ends up worse overall than just making a unarmed strike focused regular warpriest. If you really want to go crazy, take the Arsenal Chaplain archetype and use a feat to pick up Advanced Weapon Training (Trained Grace) and now you get double damage from your Weapon Training bonus that you will get, or you can get an agile amulet of mighty fists and go all dex based but still use light armor and be able to place brawling on the light armor for even more attack and damage bonus.

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Sundakan wrote:

This is a non-problem. There is a class called Monk, and a class called Unchained Monk.

The ability specifies the former.

Yes, i realized that shortly after posting this, i felt quite silly tbh. But never any harm in asking. Thanks for answering my slighty silly question.

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