Why is the Cleric a Tier One Class?

[HyperMissingno]

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Scavion wrote:

Gevaudan wrote:

Scavion,

While we both love Divination, it requires a cooperative DM. A gygaxian DM can render it less good without breaking the letter of the spell.

I don't think that is fair to the discussion. Spells are meant to do SOMETHING. Fiating away a spell meant to have a somewhat clear and beneficial effect is what I'd call bad GMing.

And it's not like the ability of the GM to arbitrarily nerf spells into uselessness is confined to divination spells. How many discussions have we as a forum had about wish? Or teleport? Or dominate? Or simulacrum?

The less said about illusions the better. Heck it doesn't take much for a GM to accidentally nerf them if they're not careful with the true seeing monsters.

[Liz Courts]

Removed some posts and their responses—please be civil to each other, thank you. I believe this thread has run its course and people are arguing in circles now.