Anti-magic field V.S. Handy Haversack& other questions

[Uthak]

So just what happens to the contents inside a handy haversack when the player walks into an anti-magic field.

I'm of the opinion that the HH loses its connection with the extra-dimensional space and its contents get spilled across the the astral plain.

Am I just being an evil DM?

Alss, can the gem used for the magic-jar spell stillbe counted as in range if it is inside a HH?

[Vaellen]

You are being an evil DM (I would call you something worse).
Handy haversacks and portable holes become non-functioning and simply cannot access their extra dimensional spaces in an anti-magic field.

No, you can't use items when they are in extra dimensional spaces without removing them first.

[Scott Wilhelm]

Vaellen wrote:

You are being an evil DM (I would call you something worse).

Handy haversacks and portable holes become non-functioning and simply cannot access their extra dimensional spaces in an anti-magic field.

No, you can't use items when they are in extra dimensional spaces without removing them first.

I just had a really funny idea.

Handy Haversacks and Bags of Holding cannot access their extra dimensional spaces while in Antimagic Fields, but within the field, they are still mundane backpacks and haversacks, right?

Can you normally access the normal space of a bag of holding if it's NOT in an antimagic field?

This seems like a cool idea for a hiding place. Take your bag of holding into an antimagic field. put the thing you want to hide inside it, and walk out with the bag.

The item is closed in a mundane bag, but there is no way to get at the contents unless you destroy the bag or take it back into the antimagic field.

If a GM wants to hide something within the party, and he says that the newly-discovered Bag of Holding appears to be a normal, large sack with some kind of round stone in the bottom of it, and then they discover it's a Bag of Holding, they'll probably forget all about the Gem of Plot Device you hid inside it, assuming that the stone they can't reach in the bottom of the bag is just a glamor to make the bag appear normal.

[Scott Wilhelm]

Uthak wrote:

So just what happens to the contents inside a handy haversack when the player walks into an anti-magic field.

I'm of the opinion that the HH loses its connection with the extra-dimensional space and its contents get spilled across the the astral plain.

Am I just being an evil DM?

Alss, can the gem used for the magic-jar spell stillbe counted as in range if it is inside a HH?

Antimagic Field is supposed to squelch magical effects, not destroy magical items. I agree with Vaellen: doing that would make you a bad person. Although being a bad person doesn't necessarily make you a bad GM. Some of my favorite GMs were downright diabolical.

[Rikkan]

prd: antimagic field wrote:

Likewise, it prevents the functioning of any magic items or spells within its confines.

prd:magic items:wondrous items wrote:

A number of spells and magic items utilize extradimensional spaces, such as rope trick, a bag of holding, a handy haversack, and a portable hole. These spells and magic items create a tiny pocket space that does not exist in any dimension. Such items do not function, however, inside another extradimensional space. If placed inside such a space, they cease to function until removed from the extradimensional space. For example, if a bag of holding is brought into a rope trick, the contents of the bag of holding become inaccessible until the bag of holding is taken outside the rope trick. The only exception to this is when a bag of holding and a portable hole interact, forming a rift to the Astral Plane, as noted in their descriptions.

Seems like the content should be accessible when the handy haversack functions again.

[The Sword]

At worst I would have the items come bursting out of the openings, kinda like wet grain from a ships hold.

Definitely wouldn't have it scattered across the astral.

[Snowlilly]

The contents of the Bag of Holding, etc., are inaccessible while the item is within the anti-magic field. Nothing else happens.

The issue is address by Dispel Magic. I see no reason to run anti-magic differently.

Dispel Magic wrote:

A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect. An interdimensional opening (such as a bag of holding) is temporarily closed.

[Uthak]

Thanks for the help so far.

the main reason for this, is I have a player that currently has a few things of concern in his HH.

1) the gem he uses for his magic jar spell

2) a jar that is used during a spell that he puts his heart into.

Number (2) is something that happens when he cast a spell out of the 3rd party source book. He cast the spell removes an organ from his body and gain certain benefits. The spell dose not say what happens if the jar and him are not on the same plane together.

[David Thomassen]

Items in the Handy Haversack are not on the same plane as the person carrying the Haversack - so Number 2 would come up as soon as that player puts their heart into the Haversack.