New Traits for old characters.


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If I get a new Pathfinder book, can I add Traits and Archetypes from it to to my current Characters?


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That's up to your GM. Unless you're in PFS, in which case I believe there are specific rules for retraining.


Nator wrote:
If I get a new Pathfinder book, can I add Traits and Archetypes from it to to my current Characters?

There's a feat that gives you 2 extra traits. (Conveniently called 'Extra traits')


Thank you, Joana! I will post the question on the local Pathfinder Society's Facebook page.

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Or, if Ultimate Campaign is in use there's the retraining rules. As a GM, I'm not sure how I feel about the ability to retrain your traits. These are suppose to be things about your history and personality that give you advantages and/or disadvantages. Such as Reactionary specifically calls out that your quick reflexes are due to being bullied.

And just how would you explain retraining Birthmark into something else? Or how can you possibly train yourself to the point you no longer were adopted?


If you're playing Society games, you can use the retraining rules from Ultimate Campaign to change your archetype, paying 1 prestige for each day you spend training.

Traits can't be retrained, but you can take the Extra Traits feat.

And changing your traits makes perfect sense. It's not about no longer being adopted, it's about that background detail no longer being an interesting part of your character.


Casual Viking wrote:

If you're playing Society games, you can use the retraining rules from Ultimate Campaign to change your archetype, paying 1 prestige for each day you spend training.

Traits can't be retrained, but you can take the Extra Traits feat.

And changing your traits makes perfect sense. It's not about no longer being adopted, it's about that background detail no longer being an interesting part of your character.

Well, considering that Traits can't normally be retrained (they aren't mentioned in the Retraining rules), I would say that the RAI is against changing your traits. It is only possible to change traits by taking the feat Additional Traits, and then retraining that feat. It can be done according to RAW like this, but certainly not RAI.

Furthermore, I would say that changing your traits doesn't always make perfect sense.

Most traits deal with defining moments of your backstory, and some deal with what your character actually looks like. Like the "Balloon Headed" goblin trait.
This trait comes with a penalty for squeezing your head through tight spaces, and if you get rid off this trait then this penalty also disappears while your head has the same size. Simply unlogical.

Some memories stay with us throughout our life because they hold great importance to us.
Like that one time when I lied to get out of an awkward situation and ended up really hurting my close friend. I've never been able to lie for my own comfort ever since, and it greatly affected/affects my personality.

This is one defining moment in my life which will never stop "being an interesting part of my character".
You don't lose traits. You simply gain more.

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There has already been a thread on this subject recently, and I have no intent to start a similar discussion here. I simply want to convey that not everyone thinks of traits as something easily changable.

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