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The sling, sling staff, and blowgun are projectile weapons that are the Thrown Weapon fighter group. The fact that they are in the weapon group makes them a valid choice for Startoss Style, which only requires a weapon in the thrown group.
However, Startoss Comet allows an additional attack against a second opponent, but it specifies thrown weapons. As projectile weapons, slings seem to be disallowed from making this special attack.
Does "thrown weapon attack" in Startoss Comet mean a weapon that is thrown, or does it include all weapons in the thrown fighter weapon group?
Your thrown weapons become more deadly.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot, Weapon Focus
with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: Choose one weapon from the thrown fighter
weapon group. While using this style and the chosen
weapon, you gain a bonus on damage rolls made with the
weapon equal to 2 + 2 per style feat you possess that lists
Startoss Style as a prerequisite (maximum +6 damage). You
cannot use this ability if you are carrying a weapon or a
shield in your off hand (except for a buckler).
Special: In addition to the chosen weapon, a character
with this feat and the weapon training (thrown) class
feature can use Startoss Style with any thrown weapons
that she wields in one hand.
You can aim a thrown weapon so it strikes two foes.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot, Startoss Style,
Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: As a standard action, you can make a single
ranged thrown weapon attack at your full attack bonus
with the chosen weapon. If you hit, you deal damage
normally and can make a second attack (at your full attack
bonus) against a target within one range increment of
the first. You determine cover for this attack from the
f irst target’s space instead of your space. You can make
only one additional attack per round with this feat. If
you have Vital Strike, Improved Vital Strike, or Greater
Vital Strike, you can add the additional damage from
those feats to the initial ranged attack (but not the
second attack).
Good question.
I think it depends on if you emphasis the "thrown weapon attack" part of the description or the "with the chosen weapon."
I would read this as, RAW, only thrown weapons and not projectile weapons in the thrown weapons category like slings. However, it does seem like the intent is to allow any weapon that works with Startoss Style to apply for Startoss Combat.
I'm not going to harp on the issue as I would like an official clarification to be made on this as well, but I do find it a bit disingenuous to not have linked to the designer's comments. He basically says they are designed to work together.
I think short of a FAQ that is the best answer we can hope to get anyway.
By the way, have I mentioned yet that Alexander is my favorite designer? He seems to make all of the missing things I most want to do.
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They are designed to work together, but designer comments have no standing on official RAW. If you want to use them together in PFS without table variation, there needs to be something more than the incomplete comment you linked.
As written, you can still have a +2 to +6 to hit and damage with both styles active, but that does not mean that you can use the special attack of startoss comet, or it's enhanced version with startoss shower.
After looking over things, I think that ricochet shot feat points to how the feats are meant to be read.
"When you make a ranged attack with an appropriate thrown weapon, the weapon return" Then it goes to exclude "bullets, thrown ammunition such as darts or shuriken, or thrown splash weapons to return to you."
Note it DOESN'T exclude the projectile weapons as not being thrown weapons or not a "thrown weapon attack" but the ammo is excluded as they are destroyed on a hit.
So the feat:
#1 assumes projectile weapons in the thrown weapon group are thrown weapons.
#2 assumes thrown weapon attacks includes those projectile weapons.
The thing i dislike intensely about the "no it doesn't" interpretation is that it requires accepting the premise that weapons in the thrown weapon group don't count as thrown weapons for the purposes of feat selection, and ignores the fact that the initial style feat does actually work with the sling.
The end result of this interpretation is that it takes something that would take a sub-par build of a sub-par class using a sub-par race to do so into a position of not being a sea anchor for their party and hamstrings it.
If however we treat weapon groups as a weighted term, and "thrown weapon" as shorthand for "A weapon in the thrown weapons group" (acceptable within the laws of grammar if you take the prerequisite feat into account) It preserves an iconic character type (halfling slinger), provides another feasable build to a class that could really use it (fighter), and lines the feat up with the posted designer intent.
TL;DR
In the face of designer intent, it seems more likely that the language in the latter two feats had more to do with word count and space on the page than it did actual rules intent and there's no compelling reason not to allow it from a balance perspective.
If however we treat weapon groups as a weighted term, and "thrown weapon" as shorthand for "A weapon in the thrown weapons group" (acceptable within the laws of grammar if you take the prerequisite feat into account)
It's also worth noting that the entire book - which is a relevant bit of context - is very much focused on fighter weapon groups. Compare Startoss to Ascetic Style, that keys of the fighter weapon group, NOT weapons with the "Monk" quality.
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It's also worth noting that the entire book - which is a relevant bit of context - is very much focused on fighter weapon groups. Compare Startoss to Ascetic Style, that keys of the fighter weapon group, NOT weapons with the "Monk" quality.
If however we treat weapon groups as a weighted term, and "thrown weapon" as shorthand for "A weapon in the thrown weapons group" (acceptable within the laws of grammar if you take the prerequisite feat into account)
Which least to the situation, that RAW, you cannot use the style with a Temple Sword, a weapon that all monks are proficient in. It's clearly intended to work with a temple sword, but because the Temple Sword is only in the heavy blades group, it doesn't.
While anyone can house rule it to work, per the rules it doesn't. Any amount of developer input which extremely helpful for house rules, does not change the actual rules that are written.
Temple sword is in the monk weapons group though.
At least according to this
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter#TOC-Weapon-Training-Ex -
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Temple sword is in the monk weapons group though.
At least according to this
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter#TOC-Weapon-Training-Ex -
Temple Sword was added to the monk group i Humans of Golarion, but the weapon groups in that book are almost never used, and they aren't PFS legal.
Temple Sword was added to the monk group i Humans of Golarion, but the weapon groups in that book are almost never used, and they aren't PFS legal.Temple sword is in the monk weapons group though.
At least according to this
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter#TOC-Weapon-Training-Ex -
I was wondering why the Temple sword wasn't in the new Weapon Training blog update but when I went back and checked it I noticed it was a PFS blog and is going to be a legal source for PFS. With the sword not being PFS legal, it makes sense it's not there. Now it makes me wonder if the new list is missing some other weapons that for one reason or another did make their way into PFS.
No luck for PFS, but "GMs may add other weapons to these groups" is literally the RAW.