Not if you dress in layers.
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I blame the puritans, always ruining everyones fun with high collars and buckle shoes, oh, and joyless procreation only. Though in all honesty, pretty sure the ban is to avoid the inevitable angry very conservative mother who does not want their 12 YO son or daughter who plays PFS to learn that sometimes, we human, you know....happy grapple.
Sigh, ripped off heads, fine, healthy human intimacy, not fine. There is a lesson in there somewhere...
Um, you, you kinda need "competition" in order to have sex. Otherwise it's just masturbation.
If it's a competition, then how do you determine a winner and a loser? Usually you both "win".
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Let us hope I am indeed wrong about the reasoning for the banning.
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Endurance competition.Um, you, you kinda need "competition" in order to have sex. Otherwise it's just masturbation.If it's a competition, then how do you determine a winner and a loser? Usually you both "win".
Sleight of Hands checks and a couple Fortitude saves.
It's not about who rolls highest, but how many times you roll high.
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Endurance competition.Um, you, you kinda need "competition" in order to have sex. Otherwise it's just masturbation.If it's a competition, then how do you determine a winner and a loser? Usually you both "win".
Sleight of Hands checks and a couple Fortitude saves.
It's not about who rolls highest, but how many times you roll high.
Don't forget Acrobatics and Perform!
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High Dex score, good for more than Weapon Finesse!
Ride skill.........
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I sincerely hope that the Lust phantom is not being banned for purely thematic reasons.
It sets a dangerous precedent for eliminating a lot of other creative and flavourful content from Society play (sexual deities, ect.)
If the Lust phantom is too racy for young audiences, then so is Zarta Dranleen. (And I'm not just saying this based on her manerisms. There is a scenario where the players actually stumble upon her sex/play-torture equipment - it is described in scenario flavour text.)
Any reasonable GM will know to tone down or avoid such content, or scenarios involving that content, for younger players. Banning content based on adult themes is detrimental to the considerable adult majority of the Society player base.
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They probably banned it because druids can't grapple incorporeal creatures, guys. It's only fair.
You might have to make a separate thread about that, Lorewalker.
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If the Lust phantom is too racy for young audiences, then so is Zarta Dranleen. (And I'm not just saying this based on her manerisms. There is a scenario where the players actually stumble upon her sex/play-torture equipment - it is described in scenario flavour text.)
Any reasonable GM will know to tone down or avoid such content, or scenarios involving that content, for younger players. Banning content based on adult themes is detrimental to the considerable adult majority of the Society player base.
Fun fact: I ran that scenario at a convention with a 13 year old at the table...there were a lot of air quotes and winking. "And back there is her...um...'interrogation room'--yeah, let's go with that..."
My only concern is that while reasonable GMs know to tone down that kind of content, not all players will be mature enough or reasonable enough to do the same. I don't think that I would disallow "tonable" content because of that, but it is a concern.
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If the Lust phantom is too racy for young audiences, then so is Zarta Dranleen. (And I'm not just saying this based on her manerisms. There is a scenario where the players actually stumble upon her sex/play-torture equipment - it is described in scenario flavour text.)
Any reasonable GM will know to tone down or avoid such content, or scenarios involving that content, for younger players. Banning content based on adult themes is detrimental to the considerable adult majority of the Society player base.
Fun fact: I ran that scenario at a convention with a 13 year old at the table...there were a lot of air quotes and winking. "And back there is her...um...'interrogation room'--yeah, let's go with that..."
My only concern is that while reasonable GMs know to tone down that kind of content, not all players will be mature enough or reasonable enough to do the same. I don't think that I would disallow "tonable" content because of that, but it is a concern.
This is always a difficult line to come across. Personally I hate when they make adjusts to the whole for the concerns of a few. I understand why they do it, but I hate it and the few that fight for it.
Again my preference is to give me a great story I enjoy being part of. Using the "Disney" guide lines can give good stories but you are removing the artists tools from possibly havign a better one.
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Fun fact: I ran that scenario at a convention with a 13 year old at the table...there were a lot of air quotes and winking. "And back there is her...um...'interrogation room'--yeah, let's go with that..."My only concern is that while reasonable GMs know to tone down that kind of content, not all players will be mature enough or reasonable enough to do the same. I don't think that I would disallow "tonable" content because of that, but it is a concern.
I had a 10 YO at my table. "This is Zarta's bedroom. It is full of things we won't talk about. And a bed."
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I sincerely hope that the Lust phantom is not being banned for purely thematic reasons.
It sets a dangerous precedent for eliminating a lot of other creative and flavourful content from Society play (sexual deities, ect.)
If the Lust phantom is too racy for young audiences, then so is Zarta Dranleen. (And I'm not just saying this based on her manerisms. There is a scenario where the players actually stumble upon her sex/play-torture equipment - it is described in scenario flavour text.)
Any reasonable GM will know to tone down or avoid such content, or scenarios involving that content, for younger players. Banning content based on adult themes is detrimental to the considerable adult majority of the Society player base.
Which one? There are at least two scenarios that I can think of that involves Zarta's toys.
Edit:Actually never mind I know which one you are thinking of. The hilarious part of the one Im thinking of is that you can in fact complete a Dark Archive quest by recovering one of her sex/play-torture equipment.
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I believe it has been said, "It is astounding what one can accomplish with a riding crop, some well blown glass, and a little tight leather."
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I'm honestly still a bit baffled that Lamashtu and Rovagug are allowed. Maybe their nastier sides are just hidden in plain sight, but reading some of the god articles and after perusing one or two AP's and mannn...strictly for the insane and permanently damaged. In game, of course.
There's, (un/)fortunately, always the odd joke character.
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At least for we Americans, it seems somehow violence, rage, etc are more acceptable in our fantasy gaming than sex. I find that about as odd as it can get, as sex (sure, not a topic for kids, but neither is violence) which I consider a healthy, good, natural, and needed thing (no sex, no humans, and thus no PF!) gets criticized in games, but the head ripping off, blood flung from blades, guts split open stuff seems to be considered as normal as apple pie.
I just. Don't. Get. It.
(for reference, I do mean tasteful and not FATAL style sexuality in games. Those of us who are adults should be able to explore that portion of gaming (if the table is ok with such) so long as we "fade to black" at the point where someone gets that uncomfortable look, and as always, RMV)
@ Kallindlara Likely sexuality is not the main reason for the ban (given the other material that is ok still), though chances are, we shall never know.
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Seriously. I can play a bard/summoner/evangelist of Calistria who, after performing her obedience every day, conjures a succubus in battle and uses unnatural lust to force enemies to play baseball with the lust demon.
I can do it with Zarta Dralneen watching, if I want; I'm pretty sure that's the character's Day Job.
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Likely sexuality is not the main reason for the ban (given the other material that is ok still), though chances are, we shall never know.
I'm guessing it's the varied tactical abilities of the phantom. If so... it's sad that an fighter-obsoleting eidolon pounce-machine is fine, but a defensively-oriented companion is disallowed.
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I am firmly in the belief that Id Ragers should be able to use any emotional focus unless they are specifically called out and disallowed.
Yes it listed what all EFs they could use at the time, and they listed all the EFs that were, because that's all they had.
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I am firmly in the belief that Id Ragers should be able to use any emotional focus unless they are specifically called out and disallowed.
Yes it listed what all EFs they could use at the time, and they listed all the EFs that were, because that's all they had.
Sadly, it's a Companion, so we'll never see errata for it. :/
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Sadly, it's a Companion, so we'll never see errata for it. :/I am firmly in the belief that Id Ragers should be able to use any emotional focus unless they are specifically called out and disallowed.
Yes it listed what all EFs they could use at the time, and they listed all the EFs that were, because that's all they had.
This vexes me...
We could FAQ it though.
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Sadly, it's a Companion, so we'll never see errata for it. :/I am firmly in the belief that Id Ragers should be able to use any emotional focus unless they are specifically called out and disallowed.
Yes it listed what all EFs they could use at the time, and they listed all the EFs that were, because that's all they had.
This vexes me...
We could FAQ it though.
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Thank all the gods for home games :), where debauchery and what ever EF's we want are available. Guess that is the "win some" side of "lose some, win some."
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I faqed it, your question I mean, I'm not starting a thread on it.
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Actually, I at first read it that exact same way. I believe we are feeling the effects of Rysky's Aura, not that is a BAD thing per say ;).
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I faqed it, your question I mean, I'm not starting a thread on it.Given the thread, I read this as something different at first...
Worth a shot, though.
lol
I hope they see it, when something is FAQed does it pop up on some big list or do the Designers have to go around looking for FAQed posts?
Of course people would still have to come and find this particular post and FAQ it...
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I faqed it, your question I mean, I'm not starting a thread on it.Given the thread, I read this as something different at first...
Worth a shot, though.
lol
I hope they see it, when something is FAQed does it pop up on some big list or do the Designers have to go around looking for FAQed posts?
Of course people would still have to come and find this particular post and FAQ it...
I believe they have a queue, but it sorts by post. Last I knew it was down, though.
If we're serious, a new thread would be better. It's still highly unlikely...