We got to see a fair amount of Luke Cage in this outing, so I wonder if Luke's series will have an equal amount of Jessica Jones in it as well.I'm more interested in seeing if they still hire Doreen Green as their nanny.
Would have liked to have seen one reference to Scott Lang though.
They don't even have to hire her yet. It would be awesome if she just showed up as a high/middle schooler in the background
We got to see a fair amount of Luke Cage in this outing, so I wonder if Luke's series will have an equal amount of Jessica Jones in it as well.I'm more interested in seeing if they still hire Doreen Green as their nanny.
Would have liked to have seen one reference to Scott Lang though.
I am kind of guessing no on Jessica Jones showing up in a major way. I think they are filming Luke Cage right now, and I haven't heard a whiff of news regarding Kristen Ritter being on set.
Luke Cage is pretty key to the Jessica Jones story arc they adapted, but vice versa...not so much.
Also I finished the last episode last night. Got to say the show was pretty amazing, and I am more stoked than ever for Luke Cage and Daredevil season 2.
Also I am really confused on the timeline of the show. Obviously this is post Avengers/Daredevil, but what about the other MCU movies or shows? There was no mention of events from Avengers 2, and I would think the whole inhumans popping up everywhere and the ATG or whatever anti-alien task force would have followed up on the very public rumors of a mind-controller. Do the Netflix shows still exist in "Phase 2"?
I enjoy that in many ways Jessica Jones was the polar opposite of Daredevil.
Both shows heavily dealt with the idea of "Is killing wrong", and under what circumstances, with both characters coming at it from opposite ends of the spectrum and making different decisions.
Both shows dealt with big bads that are effectively in some ways spoiled man-children, whose childhood trauma basically molded them into the people they are today. However one (Kingpin) seems to strive to be a better man, even if it is in his own warped way, and save the city. The other is a complete hedonist who has absolutely no moral center and or even agenda beyond doing what he wants in luxury.
Both shows go into some really dark territory, but whereas Daredevil takes a broad luck at crime and urban decay across Hell's Kitchen, Jessica Jones doubles down by focusing on personal trauma.
At any rate I can't wait to see what comes down the line for the show. There isn't a whole lot of material for adaptation compared to Daredevil, so it will be interesting to see where a season 2 goes. I would guess either picking up on the other experimental kids, or maybe focusing in on IGH, which hopefully is a front for some other evil Marvel organization (not exactly a shortage).
Finished the series. Good stuff.
Eagerly await Daredevil S2 and Luke Cage.
Hope they tie-in Iron Fist's debut to Luke Cage like they did Cage to Jessica Jones.
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I think there was very brief mention of the city Ultron was about to use as a weapon for a meteor strike, although I am not sure if it was in a supplementary article or the show itself, so this odes take place after Avengers 2 and Claire Temple without being particular whom it is offhandedly mentions her meeting Daredevil.
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They don't even have to hire her yet. It would be awesome if she just showed up as a high/middle schooler in the backgroundWe got to see a fair amount of Luke Cage in this outing, so I wonder if Luke's series will have an equal amount of Jessica Jones in it as well.I'm more interested in seeing if they still hire Doreen Green as their nanny.
Would have liked to have seen one reference to Scott Lang though.
Well, it's possible since she was apparently just retconned as being "medically and legally distinct from being mutant" in the October issue of her book.
Of course, that may also just be the writers trying to get her in the MCU combined with the rumors that Marvel isn't a fan of mutants anymore.
Of course. They are trying to do anything they can to minimize mutants until such time as the film rights revert to Marvel.
It's also been a huge disconnect in the comics universe that super heroes such as the Avengers and Fantastic Four were fine and dandy but if you got your powers from mutation you were persecuted.
** spoiler omitted **Finished the series. Good stuff.Agreed. Finished it too. ** spoiler omitted **
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Those are the questions you need to answer before writing him back in. This isn't the comic books where they need hundreds of different story arcs each year. They significantly slower pace of TV with fewer parallel stories alleviates the necessity for keeping him alive to use later, and if you bring him back you need to make his new arc not just a new plan, but significantly different so that it feels new. That is hard to do with a character that just went through a complete arc like he did.
Also I finished the last episode last night. Got to say the show was pretty amazing, and I am more stoked than ever for Luke Cage and Daredevil season 2.
Also I am really confused on the timeline of the show. Obviously this is post Avengers/Daredevil, but what about the other MCU movies or shows? There was no mention of events from Avengers 2, and I would think the whole inhumans popping up everywhere and the ATG or whatever anti-alien task force would have followed up on the very public rumors of a mind-controller.
I don't recall which episode it was, but JJ served some sleeze bag rich dude some papers after lifting the rear of his car off the ground while he tried to speed off. He started stammering and freaking out that "she was one of them"- which I thought was a reference to the so-called outbreak of inhumans.
So, I think this is happening right smack dab in the middle of the current season of Agents of Shield.
Also I finished the last episode last night. Got to say the show was pretty amazing, and I am more stoked than ever for Luke Cage and Daredevil season 2.
Also I am really confused on the timeline of the show. Obviously this is post Avengers/Daredevil, but what about the other MCU movies or shows? There was no mention of events from Avengers 2, and I would think the whole inhumans popping up everywhere and the ATG or whatever anti-alien task force would have followed up on the very public rumors of a mind-controller.
I don't recall which episode it was, but JJ served some sleeze bag rich dude some papers after lifting the rear of his car off the ground while he tried to speed off. He started stammering and freaking out that "she was one of them"- which I thought was a reference to the so-called outbreak of inhumans.
So, I think this is happening right smack dab in the middle of the current season of Agents of Shield.
Isn't that episode 1?
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Probably?
Bingewatching tends to blur the episode-distinctions for me =P
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...but if Loki can't do it, well... that could be bad news for him. LOLScarlet Witch could...
Kilgrave's is a sonic, disease effect. If you're deaf it won't work on you. If you're immune to disease it won't work on you. I think Hulk is immune to disease as his regen is on par with Wolverine.
Not sure why Scarlet Witch's power worked. It didn't work for Loki, and I thought both Loki and her used magic. Could be that her power uses something else than magic, like a pseudo-sciency mutant based probability quantum magic thing. Then again Scarlet Witch is listed as one of the top 30 powerful being in the Marvel Universe, on the same list as Thanos... and Loki didn't make that list...
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"pseudo-sciency mutant based probability quantum magic thing"
I think that's the technical explanation for how Scarlet Witch's power works in the comics, yes.
Other explanations are less polite, from what I've seen. Like "She runs on Asspullium".
Boooooooooooooooo. That means we have to suffer through more Ultra B*~+* in Iron Fist. =/
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Boooooooooooooooo. That means we have to suffer through more Ultra B*#&* in Iron Fist. =/
She might be less of an a!@!$$& now that she got 20+ scars at the hand of her ex. At least she might now think twice before letting a super villain out of prison for personal gain.
PS: isn't she the Matrix lady? Maybe she'll pull Keanu Reeves into the MCU... :P
Yes, she is.
And I hope not. Everyone else in the MCU is a decent actor.
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Definitely Pacino.
Reeves is never "bad" per se. That would imply some kind of failed performance. It's just that he's about as interesting as cardboard, with half the emotion. He doesn't even try.
I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.
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Not sure why Scarlet Witch's power worked. It didn't work for Loki, and I thought both Loki and her used magic.
Did it not work for Loki? I don't recall him trying to mind control the Hulk, just starting to say something and then getting beaten like a rented mule...
And both of their mind control abilities are less 'magic' and more based on the Mind Stone, which is what Loki was explicitly using, and what directly empowered Wanda. I'd imagine it would have worked on the Hulk, had Loki managed to zap him. (It did fizzle on Stark, but that seemed to be more an issue of the stone's mind-mojo failing to conduct through a palladium-arc-reactor-McGuffin to Stark's brain.)
As for Kilgrave's power, it will or will not work on people based on the plot. Captain America's super-soldier serum supposedly protects him from getting sick, so that *might* make him immune (it sure didn't in the comics). Iron Man's suit is *probably* environmentally sealed, so that might work, but, again, rarely does in the comics. Vision's got cells filled with vibranium, but is still a living breathing organic humanoid, so who even knows. Thor's an Asgardian, not a human, and we don't know if Kilgrave can affect dogs and cats, let alone Asgardians, Inhumans, Kree, Groots, etc. The Hulk, in the Cinematic Universe, might not even have a healing factor (since he's not comic-book-Hulk), so, again, crapshoot.
IMO, mind-controlled Avengers fighting other Avengers have gotten stale (having been a feature in 2 out of 2 Avengers movies), 'though, so I'd rather not see Kilgrave vs. Avengers anytime soon.
MCU Hulk seems to not take damage from anything very often, so I suspect there's a massive dollop of damage resistance and a respectable healing factor.
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I almost wish Hydra was able to activate the gunships in Winter Soldier, just so we could have seen what happened when Bruce Banner got hit by a railgun. I am sure we would have a undamaged, very angry Hulk.
The entire ship's arsenal could light up Banner and result in said undamage, very angry Hulk. MCU Hulk seems able to react to threats on a Spider-sense kind of level (given how he was able to morph into Hulk in the minute portion of time between Banner pulling the trigger and the bullet clearing the barrel according to The Avengers), so the only limit on MCU Hulk I can think of is Hulk's (not Banner's) Perception abilities.
Maybe Hulk is MCU's Yoda. "Hulk sense wrong in Smash. HULK SMASH!!"
I don't think Kilgrave's power IS conducted via viral transmission. I think that was simply his parents hypothesis, because that is easier to swallow than effectively psychic magic.
That is why the vaccine failed. It's also why a powered up Kilgrave can control someone through a TV, which of course is not going to transmit a virus, and why Jessica began to worry about him taking over a radio or TV station.
Also...on a unrelated note...Kilgrave is definitely, absolutely dead. Hell, snapping someone's neck is almost the go to method for showing that someone is definitely, absolutely dead. I agree with the poster up above; there really isn't anything more they could do with the character, and he is just a tad to vile to keep around. I am just glad Simpson survived, and for that matter Kingpin from Daredevil.
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Reeves is never "bad" per se. That would imply some kind of failed performance. It's just that he's about as interesting as cardboard, with half the emotion. He doesn't even try.
I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.
I'm not sure why, but he seems to draw crowds to movies... and he probably would draw crowds to an MCU TV show... that's just a guess though.
I had no idea Matrix lady was in Jessica Jones until I watched the show. (i.e. she had no impact on my decision to watch the show). However I'm pretty sure that if Keanu Reeves would have been in it, JJ would have had a bigger opening.
I'm not trying to defend the actor, just stating that he sells movies. I don't want to be known as someone who says "if it draws more people to MCU it must be good!" and I've been told to stop, so I will. However any one of sound mind could see that some benefit would be gained from Reeves in the MCU.
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Kilgrave's saves appear to be Cha-based. It can't be Wis or Int, because if one of those were his main stat, he would have made a bee line towards Hulk as soon as he heard of the monster instead of focusing on Jessica Jones and other random humans with no powers.
...or maybe his Int and Wis are sufficiently high enough to know his powers won't work on people with enhanced immune systems or regen?
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Reeves is never "bad" per se. That would imply some kind of failed performance. It's just that he's about as interesting as cardboard, with half the emotion. He doesn't even try.
I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.
I'm not sure why, but he seems to draw crowds to movies... and he probably would draw crowds to an MCU TV show... that's just a guess though.
I had no idea Matrix lady was in Jessica Jones until I watched the show. (i.e. she had no impact on my decision to watch the show). However I'm pretty sure that if Keanu Reeves would have been in it, JJ would have had a bigger opening.
I'm not trying to defend the actor, just stating that he sells movies. I don't want to be known as someone who says "if it draws more people to MCU it must be good!" and I've been told to stop, so I will. However any one of sound mind could see that some benefit would be gained from Reeves in the MCU.
Except that Reeves wouldn't be seen dead on a TV show. He's a movie actor. Such "shows" are beneath him. And by him I mean his agents.
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Except that Reeves wouldn't be seen dead on a TV show. He's a movie actor. Such "shows" are beneath him. And by him I mean his agents.Reeves is never "bad" per se. That would imply some kind of failed performance. It's just that he's about as interesting as cardboard, with half the emotion. He doesn't even try.
I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.
I'm not sure why, but he seems to draw crowds to movies... and he probably would draw crowds to an MCU TV show... that's just a guess though.
I had no idea Matrix lady was in Jessica Jones until I watched the show. (i.e. she had no impact on my decision to watch the show). However I'm pretty sure that if Keanu Reeves would have been in it, JJ would have had a bigger opening.
I'm not trying to defend the actor, just stating that he sells movies. I don't want to be known as someone who says "if it draws more people to MCU it must be good!" and I've been told to stop, so I will. However any one of sound mind could see that some benefit would be gained from Reeves in the MCU.
I would have said the same thing about Kevin Bacon a few years ago, but then he did The Following, and now is going to be in a new Tremors series.
I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.Now you're exaggerating. If you watched it you had to know he's in it. Or is your problem of displaced memory due to a large block of data displaying Charlize Theron's young body? :)
I watched it. I remember seeing it when I was fairly little (10-12 or so, on TV well after it came out).
I remember the devil. I didn't know who Al Pacino was at the time, but I remember really liking that performance. Very charismatic. It's been forever since I've seen it, but I remember him giving that little speech in the bathroom.
I could not tell you a single thing Reeves said or did.
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I didn't even remember he was IN Devil's Advocate. He's that memorable in most of his roles.Now you're exaggerating. If you watched it you had to know he's in it. Or is your problem of displaced memory due to a large block of data displaying Charlize Theron's young body? :)I watched it. I remember seeing it when I was fairly little (10-12 or so, on TV well after it came out).
I remember the devil. I didn't know who Al Pacino was at the time, but I remember really liking that performance. Very charismatic. It's been forever since I've seen it, but I remember him giving that little speech in the bathroom.
I could not tell you a single thing Reeves said or did.
Fair enough. That movie has always given me the creeps for some unknown reason. Probably because Pacino is really convincing in his role. So I might be remembering more than the average viewer.