Misfortune EX and SU questions

[poundpuppy30]

I'm considering making a dual cursed oracle of time with maybe a level as witch. My question is about the revelation Misfortune (EX) that you can get at level 1 as a dual cursed oracle and the Misfortune (SU) that you can get as a level 1 witch. The question is can you have both and use one on lets say bad guy A and next round use the other on the same bad guy? I'm thinking you can since one is an EX and the other is an (Su), but wanted to make sure.

[Faan]

(Ex) vs (Su) doesn't matter. They are different abilities from different classes, and function differently, despite having similar names. You can have your opponent be under the effects of the Witch Hex and also target them with the Oracle version just fine.

[poundpuppy30]

Is there a way to change an immediate action like Misfortune into a faster action that you can think of, so I can use both in the same round? Currently both are immediate actions and one would have to be faster to be able to use both in the same round.

[Arbane the Terrible]

Witch Misfortune is (IIRC) a standard action to inflict, and a move action to keep going via Cackle.

[Faan]

What Arbane said.

The Witch's ability is a standard action, whereas the Oracle's ability is an immediate action (and triggered in response to a roll, whereas the Witch's has a duration).

[poundpuppy30]

Oh ok.