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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)

...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.


I recall having a discussion ages ago, about how throughout the centuries, long hair and short hair constantly swapped in and out of fashion, often very quickly, as the younger generation wanted to distinguish themselves from the older generation.

However, I'm going off hearsay, so I have no sources, beyond that I was reflecting on depictions of short hair on migration period bracteates before christianity, depictions of long hair in gotlandic picture stones, and long hair in gold foils, and so forth, and a friend responded with this observation.


thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Who said anything about honor? We're talking about warriors, and like em or hate em, the Romans knew war.

Just ask Carthage. Oh wait. You can't. The Gauls? No... Celts? Not really...


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To me, there's something admirable about a people who respond with ridiculously out of proportion retribution when someone f***s with them.

Carthage brought elephants through the mountains? Rome wiped them off the face of the planet and salted their lands so nothing would ever grow there. You messed with a Roman citizen? No clean beheading for you; you get crucified, one of the worst deaths imagined.

Yeah, it was kinda dishonorable...but Carthage didn't start anything again because they didn't exist anymore, and a Roman citizen could walk anywhere in Europe without fear.

It's the Ender Wiggin school of payback. Beat the enemy so bad that anyone else considering attacking you looks at your victims and says "oh crap, but if I lose..." Such should happen to any who dare raise their hand in violence against you.

And those folks, they wore short hair, and you didn't f*** with them.


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?


The Green Tea Gamer wrote:

To me, there's something admirable about a people who respond with ridiculously out of proportion retribution when someone f***s with them.

Carthage brought elephants through the mountains? Rome wiped them off the face of the planet and salted their lands so nothing would ever grow there. You messed with a Roman citizen? No clean beheading for you; you get crucified, one of the worst deaths imagined.

Yeah, it was kinda dishonorable...but Carthage didn't start anything again because they didn't exist anymore, and a Roman citizen could walk anywhere in Europe without fear.

It's the Ender Wiggin school of payback. Beat the enemy so bad that anyone else considering attacking you looks at your victims and says "oh crap, but if I lose..." Such should happen to any who dare raise their hand in violence against you.

And those folks, they wore short hair, and you didn't f*** with them.

From U.S. history, it's the Sherman method.


thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Who said anything about honor? We're talking about warriors, and like em or hate em, the Romans knew war.

Just ask Carthage. Oh wait. You can't. The Gauls? No... Celts? Not really...

*salt intensifies*

EDIT: that was a reference to me being incredibly salty, not to carthage getting salted. Altho that was pretty, well, salty of the romans lmao


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David M Mallon wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

sanitation and roman cities are like oil and water

low population density is the best sanitation practice.

also red wine is evil. white wine isn't so bad though.


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Scythia wrote:
The Green Tea Gamer wrote:

To me, there's something admirable about a people who respond with ridiculously out of proportion retribution when someone f***s with them.

Carthage brought elephants through the mountains? Rome wiped them off the face of the planet and salted their lands so nothing would ever grow there. You messed with a Roman citizen? No clean beheading for you; you get crucified, one of the worst deaths imagined.

Yeah, it was kinda dishonorable...but Carthage didn't start anything again because they didn't exist anymore, and a Roman citizen could walk anywhere in Europe without fear.

It's the Ender Wiggin school of payback. Beat the enemy so bad that anyone else considering attacking you looks at your victims and says "oh crap, but if I lose..." Such should happen to any who dare raise their hand in violence against you.

And those folks, they wore short hair, and you didn't f*** with them.

From U.S. history, it's the Sherman method.

Well, technically, yeah, but Ender Wiggin is more entertaining...

...as long as you're only reading about him, and a 16 year old isn't playing his 6-12 year old self in a movie that cuts out all of the drama and internal monologue down to...Just...garbage.


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Rome, to Carthage - Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'
Carthage - Started somethin'
Rome - It's on, now
Greece - You really shouldn't have done that. Do you know who you're messin with?
Rome - Shut up, b****. If I want lip from you I'll ask for it. Now get back there and write me some more mythology.
Greece - Yes, sir. Sorry, sir.

(Chronologically inaccurate, IIRC, but still funny.)


Rome, Greece, Byzantium, sacked cities, all same thing.


Hair or lack there of isn't really an indicator of historical success.

Chicks in the midwest dig the rebel types tho, and nothing says rebel in an ultra conservative small german town like long luxurious hippy hair:-)


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Everyone knows that the indicator of historical success lies in the greatness of your deeds in battle, whether in life and victory, or in death and defeat. Obviously. This is basically common sense.


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Salty Barbarian wrote:
Everyone knows that the indicator of historical success lies in the greatness of your deeds in battle, whether in life and victory, or in death and defeat. Obviously. This is basically common sense.

History is written by the winners.


The CR30 Green Tea Demigod wrote:
Salty Barbarian wrote:
Everyone knows that the indicator of historical success lies in the greatness of your deeds in battle, whether in life and victory, or in death and defeat. Obviously. This is basically common sense.
History is written by the winners.

Our deeds are not written, they are spoken of and sung!

And history is a four letter word.

Besides, that's not even what letters are for. Why spend all day scratching on a skin when you can just recite it in alliterative verse?


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i got a four letter word, it begins with an F

:
Explosive Runes!!


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Funny thing is right up until i typed spoiler i was gonna say Figs behind the tag:-)

I might have a problem:-)


I saw figs at a market once. It was awful.

I felt personally insulted by their existence.

I did the only logical thing to do when insulted, and challenged the figs to a holmgång. They never showed up so I declared them níðingar.


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I like Figs:-)


In all seriousness, I don't think I have ever had the opportunity to try a real fig.

The fig flavored fig newtons though were gross.


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Figs are full of dead wasp pulp and juices. Mmmm, yummy.


Farmer Maggot wrote:
Figs are full of dead wasp pulp and juices. Mmmm, yummy.

I knew I was on to something!


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Have you ever lived on a farm?

i did, a long f!#&ing time too, trust me you're eating all sorts of stuff you don't realize just by going to the grocery store:-)


Have you ever drank ale that accidentally had the weird stuff that sometimes grows on barley brewed into it? It makes you feel awful, but you see visions. Very interesting, don't do it often, and for the love of the gods check your barley.


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I'm not really a drinker and I hate beer :-)


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Salty Barbarian wrote:
Have you ever drank ale that accidentally had the weird stuff that sometimes grows on barley brewed into it? It makes you feel awful, but you see visions. Very interesting, don't do it often, and for the love of the gods check your barley.

Know anywhere I might be able to find some of that stuff? I'm... asking for a friend. Yeah, that.


captain yesterday wrote:
I'm not really a drinker and I hate beer :-)

+1, because favoriting does not alone convey how much I agree with this.


David M Mallon wrote:
Salty Barbarian wrote:
Have you ever drank ale that accidentally had the weird stuff that sometimes grows on barley brewed into it? It makes you feel awful, but you see visions. Very interesting, don't do it often, and for the love of the gods check your barley.
Know anywhere I might be able to find some of that stuff? I'm... asking for a friend. Yeah, that.

Go in a barley field in Denmark and maybe you might find some growing.

But seriously, there's no need to look for ergot in this day and age, since ergot's hallucinogenic properties are caused by LSD. It would honestly be safer just to take LSD anyway than to ingest ergot, since ergot sickness is not a fun thing.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm not really a drinker and I hate beer :-)

I dont always find people uninteresting, but when I do, they are teetotalers.


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I drink occasionally, not beer mind you, usually a nice rum and coke, Spreichers Hard Root Beer is delicious.

I'm not against drinking, if you wanna come over and have a beer by all means do, just be sure to bring your own:-)

If you don't we have this nice little store a couple blocks away with an outstanding selection of local brews :-)


I am a walking stereotype and I'm still upset that it's hard to find mead where I live.

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I like long hair *or* short close-cropped hair (for either gender). Mid-length hair annoys me. Get off the fence and pick one!

Except for dogs and cats. The shorter hair (and therefore the less maintenance required on my part, and the less vacuum cleaner motors burned out trying vainly to keep the carpets and furniture hair-free), the better.


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"He once made champagne with old bread, pulpy orange juice, and an empty shampoo bottle....he is the world's most interesting Pan."

I dont always brew mead, but when I do, all I require is water, honey, and yeast. Stay thirsty my friends.


World's most interesting Pan wrote:

"He once made champagne with old bread, pulpy orange juice, and an empty shampoo bottle....he is the world's most interesting Pan."

I dont always brew mead, but when I do, all I require is water, honey, and yeast. Stay thirsty my friends.

I have water, I have honey, and I might have yeast. I don't know if you need a specific sort of yeast or just generic sort of yeast you bake in bread will do.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Who said anything about honor? We're talking about warriors, and like em or hate em, the Romans knew war.

Just ask Carthage. Oh wait. You can't. The Gauls? No... Celts? Not really...

oh please.

Rome got their asses kicked for a combination of not paying bills and overpromising. They got payback in time but still. Rome got everything coming to it. It was not an innocent child bringing civilization to the world.


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
True warriors tye their hair in a bun on the side of the head ;)
...the Romans, those people who beat that tribe? Close cropped.

True honor isn't just about who beats who. And the Romans had none.

</very bitter early medieval historian who hates romans>

Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

sanitation and roman cities are like oil and water

low population density is the best sanitation practice.

yup.

Also look into latifundia. Awful practice.


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I find it amusing that several folks have said they have short hair for less maintenance. I have long hair partly because getting it cut regularly is too much trouble. :)


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Not to mention costs money :-)


The salty barbarian raises his/their horn to the Freehold DM and gives them a little wink.

His? Their? I'm not sure what gender the salty barbarian is. I guess it doesn't matter. The barbarian is just too salty to care about gender or pronouns.


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thejeff wrote:
I find it amusing that several folks have said they have short hair for less maintenance. I have long hair partly because getting it cut regularly is too much trouble. :)

This is exactly the reason why I started growing my hair in the first place. Now I just keep it long because it suits me and cutting it would be out of character.


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I look like a f&%+ing tool with short hair.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I look like a f@*$ing tool with short hair.

shaves his head while he sleeps, gives him controversial melanin treatments


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I look like a f@*$ing tool with short hair.
shaves his head while he sleeps, gives him controversial melanin treatments

[Insert stupid alias here]

[Initiate joke sequence about kids]


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I look like a f@*$ing tool with short hair.
shaves his head while he sleeps, gives him controversial melanin treatments

You think you're the first person to try force shaving me! Mwahahahahaha!

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Jacob Saltband wrote:
Facial(including eyebrow)

I maintain that Natalie Portman and Keira Knightley have masterwork eyebrow arches.


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Jacob Saltband wrote:
Facial(including eyebrow)
I maintain that Natalie Portman and Keira Knightley have masterwork eyebrow arches.

What, no love for Claudia Black?


thejeff wrote:
I find it amusing that several folks have said they have short hair for less maintenance. I have long hair partly because getting it cut regularly is too much trouble. :)

Yesss...someone else gets it. :) That's probably the only thing that's kept me from getting an impulse pixie cut it a few times - the thought that I'd have to either maintain cutting it or suffer the in-between phase. Long hair is lazy, and I love it.

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Hmm call me old fashioned but I love a trip to the barber. We talk shop about the local neighborhood and our plans for the season. A fresh cut just feels great and the hot foam and straight edge razor is the best part. Totally worth the 20 bucks ever other month.

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