Pathfinder Confessional

[thegreenteagamer]

Agreed. I'm not a converter. I avoid meat for health reasons. I had high blood pressure and cholesterol in my 20s, quit meat, leveled out in two months with no other effort required. I also lost about twenty pounds without exercising.

really off topic about exercising:

And I appreciated that because dang it I hate exercising. I REALLY hate it. I mean, I am otherwise a healthy dude, but i absolutely loathe it. Every stripe. Every variant. Every sport, game, machine, freeweight, stretch, or variant.

The only way I avoid obesity is walking to places or riding a bike to save gas, because then it's got a purpose and isn't just wasteful sweaty movement. Sweating sucks. ...and I live in Florida.

You folks eat all the crap you want. The lower you set the bar, the healthier I appear by comparison!

[lucky7]

Hear, hear!

[Trigger Loaded]

DrDeth wrote:

Trigger Loaded wrote:

I confess that I think Murderhobo is taken way too seriously, and that I am quite certain that most groups are practically murderhobos anyways.

Not in my experience.

Everyone always likes to deny it.

How many campaigns feature adventurers with no place of residence?
How many campaigns feature adventurers equipped, prepared, and often called upon to solve problems with violence?

Tell me this isn't the norm, and I'll say you're idealistic at best.

[Krensky]

Out of my last ten campaigns:

How many campaigns feature adventurers with no place of residence?

One to three. Depends how you count. One is Serpent's Skull so that one clearly counts. Another was a game based on Macross with the players being members of the Spacey and billeted on board a Macross Quarter carrier attached to a long range colonization fleet. Many had apartments in the fleet islands, but some lived in their shipboard quarters. The other had the players living aboard their spacecraft, ala Firefly. The ship had a home port they were in every few sessions though.

How many campaigns feature adventurers equipped, prepared, and often called upon to solve problems with violence?

All of them, however in half of them that wasn't the primary goal or means of problem resolution.

Maybe I'm not typical though.

[Perpdepog]

I confess that I read over three hundred posts in this thread before skipping to the end to avoid waking up the house with my constant chuckling.

Also, I have something else to confess.

I am not a psylon.

[DrDeth]

Trigger Loaded wrote:

DrDeth wrote:

Trigger Loaded wrote:

I confess that I think Murderhobo is taken way too seriously, and that I am quite certain that most groups are practically murderhobos anyways.

Not in my experience.

Everyone always likes to deny it.

How many campaigns feature adventurers with no place of residence?
How many campaigns feature adventurers equipped, prepared, and often called upon to solve problems with violence?

Tell me this isn't the norm, and I'll say you're idealistic at best.

Are Knights Errant's Murderhoboes? US Marshals during the Wild West? Special agents of the Crown? Monsterhunters? How about pest control? Do you call the Orkingman a "murderer"?

Muderhobo means CE characters that murder anyone and everything as long as it brings eps or gold or fun. Unlawfully.

It doesnt mean adventurers who go around saving towns from ravaging monsters.

You have to get both the "murder" and "hobo" in there.

Your definition does include adventurers, but few adventurers "murder".

Last Campaign was RotRL and the PC's live in Sandpoint. Duly authorized, too, as official "Heroes of Sandpoint". Not hobos, not murderers.

[Pepe, Murderhobo Professionnel]

Hey!

We're a perky Chaotic Neutral thank you very much!

[Aniuś the Talewise]

Pepe, Murderhobo Professionnel wrote:

Hey!

We're a perky Chaotic Neutral thank you very much!

I just found a rare pepe on the paizo boards!!!!!

[Scythia]

Perpdepog wrote:

I confess that I read over three hundred posts in this thread before skipping to the end to avoid waking up the house with my constant chuckling.

Also, I have something else to confess.

I am not a psylon.

Must construct additional psylons.

[Hercules, The Kevin Sorbo 1]

Scythia wrote:

Perpdepog wrote:

I confess that I read over three hundred posts in this thread before skipping to the end to avoid waking up the house with my constant chuckling.

Also, I have something else to confess.

I am not a psylon.

Must construct additional psylons.

I'm a Psylon.

[Xena, Lucy Lawless]

Hercules, The Kevin Sorbo 1 wrote:

Scythia wrote:

Perpdepog wrote:

I confess that I read over three hundred posts in this thread before skipping to the end to avoid waking up the house with my constant chuckling.

Also, I have something else to confess.

I am not a psylon.

Must construct additional psylons.

I'm a Psylon.

Actually I'm the psylon.

[Iolaus, loser sidekick]

I don't get it.

Can I play too?

[Ignatious the Seeker of Flame]

Trigger Loaded wrote:

DrDeth wrote:

Trigger Loaded wrote:

I confess that I think Murderhobo is taken way too seriously, and that I am quite certain that most groups are practically murderhobos anyways.

Not in my experience.

Everyone always likes to deny it.

How many campaigns feature adventurers with no place of residence?
How many campaigns feature adventurers equipped, prepared, and often called upon to solve problems with violence?

Tell me this isn't the norm, and I'll say you're idealistic at best.

First off, I have an island, "AND IT"S MY ISLAND!" Secondly, though I often need to draw my blade, I dislike violence when it's not absolutely required, and there are plenty of times when that is the case. There are also many, many times where it is not. If given the chance even the most depraved Chalaxian, follower of various dark faiths, fence-sitters, and cultists can forsake the darkness, and take a hand to help walk into the light. They just need someone to show them it's possible, with words, hope, and someone willing to plunge a hand into the waters to pull them up before they drown. You can't do that with a blade in your hand.

[DM Beckett]

My confessions:

I find it hard to find cool and appropriate male mini's and avatars from Paizo.

I think morally neutral is boring.

I like 3.5 more.

I also like Prestige Classes you can work toward and earn over many Archetypes which are just sort of poorly implemented Class Kits or Variant Classes that are more handed out for free.

I like the possibility for Good undead. Not a fan of Neutral ones, though.

"Must have a Patron deity" is stupid and removes cool ideas and fun. That is all.

Guns are okay(ish). Not working just like crossbows, not so much.

I await the day PF 2.0 arrives.

I really, really hate the Iconics.

[Aniuś the Talewise]

DM Beckett wrote:

"Must have a Patron deity" is stupid and removes cool ideas and fun. That is all.

Is this in regard to clerics? I understand that a cleric can be devoted to a concept rather than a specific deity, with the GM's permission.

[DM Beckett]

Yes. But so many people play in Golarion, and it's mandated in PFS.

[thegreenteagamer]

Probably just exists to keep you from being a cleric with both the good and evil domains, undeath and sun, or some other stupid combination.

[thegreenteagamer]

DM Beckett wrote:

Yes. But so many people play in Golarion, and it's mandated in PFS.

So, you're saying you can only play your cleric, a class named literally after organized religious individuals, with a deity, huh?

Poor baby, that sounds so out of concept for them.

Next thing you know, Cavaliers won't be legal without a cause to be devoted to.

Oh, wait...

[DM Beckett]

So your one true way is the only way?

:P

[Aniuś the Talewise]

DM Beckett wrote:

So your one true way is the only way?

I don't think that's what he's arguing.

to be fair to you he is being kind of a jerk to you about it.

[DM Beckett]

I'm good. :P

Was more joking than serious, but I think it's rather funny that in cases like the Gunslinger in "my fantasy" the response is along the lines of "but it's our fantasy" or "why do you have to ruin my fun". How DARE YOU not like/allow Gunslingers (or whatever else applies here, Samurai).

But, a Cleric/Paladin/etc . . . whose based around all the concepts of "no patron deity" or even "multiple patron deities", it's instead "NO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!!! JUST BECAUSE! It's always been that way. FALSE exact opposite, and don't think too hard, logic/fun/concepts are not allowed, (So why don't Monks, Fighters, and Wizards need to lick a training academy at level 1 that dictates what feats and spells they get thereafter. "Cherry picking" is bad, right.)".

[Xena, Warrior Princess]

Xena, Lucy Lawless wrote:

Hercules, The Kevin Sorbo 1 wrote:

Scythia wrote:

Perpdepog wrote:

I confess that I read over three hundred posts in this thread before skipping to the end to avoid waking up the house with my constant chuckling.

Also, I have something else to confess.

I am not a psylon.

Must construct additional psylons.

I'm a Psylon.

Actually I'm the psylon.

I'm even more of a Psylon.

[thegreenteagamer]

I was being a dick, yeah, but to be even more fair it was pretty funny.

[Stabbyface, Orphaned Goblin]

Why!

Why did that Paladin murder my mother!

Now who's teet shall I suckle on!

the world will burn for this!

[thegreenteagamer]

I love "I like the rules except the rules I don't like" posts.

I'm not being sarcastic. They stretch my thinking when they are well formulated with logical support, and they amuse me to no end when they're ridiculous gut feeling insistence or grognards whining about nostalgia for games that it isn't at all illegal to continue playing, but they claim its hard to find players (as if they're the only hipsters who've heard of their oh-so-exclisive editions).

[Aniuś the Talewise]

Most people like rules they like, and don't like rules they don't like. It's how liking and disliking works by definition.

[captain yesterday]

Tammy doesn't play by the rules.

[Krensky]

Rules?

Where we're going we don't need rules.

[Perpdepog]

thegreenteagamer wrote:

Probably just exists to keep you from being a cleric with both the good and evil domains, undeath and sun, or some other stupid combination.

Black Hole Sun

won't you come
and wash away the ... zombies.
Black hole sun
won't you coooooooome.

After thinking that the idea of a sun/undead worshipping faith appeals to me a lot.

[thegreenteagamer]

Perpdepog wrote:

thegreenteagamer wrote:

Probably just exists to keep you from being a cleric with both the good and evil domains, undeath and sun, or some other stupid combination.

Black Hole Sun

won't you come
and wash away the ... zombies.
Black hole sun
won't you coooooooome.

After thinking that the idea of a sun/undead worshipping faith appeals to me a lot.

Gonna be some pissed off vampires in your church, I can tell you that.

[captain yesterday]

Great!

Now I gotta look for From Dusk Til Dawn

[captain yesterday]

I know nothing about Planescape, like literally nothing, a book cover or three years ago, sadly it seems no one parts with their books because I have yet to find any on the used book market.

My brothers had it but said I was too young to get it, they were always kind of a$&*+@&s about sharing their DnD.

[Krensky]

The pdfs are available from OBS for far cheaper than the boxed set would be used.

[captain yesterday]

I don't know what OBS is.

[TriOmegaZero]

One Bookshelf.

[Kthulhu]

OBS = OneBookShelf = DriveThruRPG, RPGNow, DriveThruComics, DriveThruFiction, DriveThruCards, Wargame Vault, and D&D Classics.

[Krensky]

I didn't think it was that obscure.

Mea culpa.

[captain yesterday]

It might not be obscure, as far as RPG purchases I rely almost exclusively here and bookstores and game stores.

[thegreenteagamer]

I use d20pfsrd.com and Archives of Nethys when playing Pathfinder, and the old "lemme borrow your book for a week, memorize the rules and return it to you" trick for non-open-source games.

I started playing RPGs in college, when I could no longer afford to buy videogames. Coincidence?

I'm pretty much Snoop Dogg's character in Half Baked, only with RPGs instead of weed.

(I did buy a copy of the CRB to support the company, if that helps, but yeah, I'm not dragging a trunk full of books around the way my friends did in 3.5)

[PathlessBeth]

And here's a direct link to the PSCS on OBS. I got that set of PDFs even though I already own it in print, since I still make occasional use of it (Planescape Campaign Setting is, I believe, the oldest RPG product that I still make at least semi-regular use of).

I stopped buying anything from the paizo.com store, because
a)I like the OBS interface and search more.
b)OBS often has heavily-discounted bundles and sales that aren't on the Paizo.com store.
c)I mainly play WotC- and Steve Jackson- published games, and neither of them sell PDFs on Paizo.com (WotC only sells digitally through OBS, while SJG only sells through their own store).
d)Some RPG publishers have sales and/or reduced prices on their own store (e.g., Green Ronin products are usually a few dollars cheaper on the Green Ronin store than on Paizo or OBS).
e)If a small company has their own store, then, all-else-being-equal, I prefer to buy it from them, so that I can support the developers more than the web-store owners.

[Krensky]

captain yesterday wrote:

It might not be obscure, as far as RPG purchases I rely almost exclusively here and bookstores and game stores.

Well, when it comes to out of print and collectable/desireable stuff, yu probably want to embrace the PDF.

The Planescape Campaign Setting in fair condition, sans box, is $60 at Noble Knight, and about that on eBay.

The PDFs are $10.

[captain yesterday]

I'll just wait and see if I stumble upon it at a used book store, I hate 1st and 2nd edition dungeons and dragons so I'm not buying it in PDFs.

Thanks tho :-)

[Delayed Blast Threadlock]

captain yesterday wrote:

I'll just wait and see if I stumble upon it at a used book store, I hate 1st and 2nd edition dungeons and dragons so I'm not buying it in PDFs.

Thanks tho :-)

Ooh, I got a good seat for the grognard explosion of geezer nerdrage you just lit the fuse for!

Let me pour some gasoline on it:

Roleplaying is overrated. It's fun, to be sure, but without crunch you're just playing pretend. I can do that without dropping cash on dice, paper, pencils, books, pdfs, minis, and the like. I did it when I was five.

[Terquem]

Yes I agree, without crunch, it's just playing pretend. While with crunch it is playing pretend, pretentiously.

[captain yesterday]

I love the third edition/3.5/pathfinder system, I always hated racial restrictions for classes, no one could ever legitimately explain why my dwarves couldn't be Druids or Rangers or why my Halfling couldn't get above 7th level as a fighter.

Sure it's not perfect, but it's still pretty sweet :-)

[captain yesterday]

Also we nailed down the party for Hell's Rebels and I actually found myself worrying about a lack of trap finding/disabling and I had to remind myself it didn't matter :-)

[Orthos]

I like a lot of 2e lore for some things, but I'd never want to use the mechanics.

[captain yesterday]

I totally agree, I love first edition and 2nd edition campaign setting stuff but as far as fun playing the game and options and such I much prefer 3.5 and pathfinder :-)

[Getoff Mylawn]

Why you good fer nothin...Head explodes in a ball of nerdrage

[Pyromaniac]

*basks in the atomic afterglow*