I'm interested in playing a Vigilante Stalker, but exactly how I want to build it is something I'm still not sure of. The two choices I'm debating between are a dexterity based one using dervish dance, and a strength oriented intimidation build. My plan for each build is below:
DEXTERITY BUILD
Race: Half-Elf
Str: 10
Dex: 16 + 2 + 2
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 14
Progression:
1: Social Grace, Weapon Finesse, Dual Minded
2: Leave an Opening
3: Renown, Dervish Dance
4: Up Close and Personal, +1 Dex
5: Many Guises, Pirahana Strike
6: Evasive
7: Quick Change, Twist Away
8: Hide in Plain Sight, +1 Dex
9: Great Renown, Toughness
10: Mighty Ambush
11: Incredible Renown, Iron Will
INTIMIDATION BUILD
Race: Half-Elf
Str: 16 + 2 + 2
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 12
Wis: 12
Cha: 7
Progression:
1: Social Grace, Toughness, Skill Focus (Intimidate)
2: Leave an Opening
3: Renown, Power Attack
4: Up Close and Personal, +1 Str
5: Many Guises, Cornugon Smash
6: Twisting Fear
7: Quick Change, Hurtful
8: Hide in Plain Sight, +1 Str
9: Great Renown, Furious Focus
10: Mighty Ambush
11: Incredible Renown, Dreadful Carnage
Advice on which build I should use and how to improve these builds would be much appreciated.
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Piranha Strike (light weapons only) does not work with Dervish Dance, as a scimitar is still a one handed weapon.
Cornugon Smash can't be taken until 6th level.
The Dex build looks pretty good. I'd only add Skill Focus (acro) to it since you're a half elf using Up Close and Personal.
On the intimidate build, it seems to come online a bit late. CHA 7 seems awfully low for an intimidate build, I'd bump the other social stats to 10 and bring it up to ten. I'd look at Intimidating Prowess and Enforcer as some feats to take as well. Also, Hurtful and Up Close and Personal both take swift actions, so you can't do them on the same turn. Hurtful is still good though, as a way to get an extra Attack without having to acrobatics and get hit back. I'd also take the Renown talents as soon as possible for those tasty intimidate bonuses.
Stupid Piranha Strike. Oh well, I guess the damage will be even lower then I thought it would be.
Not sure how I missed the 6th level requirement for Cornugon Smash, now I feel really stupid.
Skill Focus (acro) might be good, although I don't actually need to pass the acrobatics check to get the attack.
I agree that the intimidate build comes online a little late, but there isn't really any way around that. I could invest one of my talents into a bonus combat feat (rogue talent, Combat Trick), but I'm not sure that's worth it. If I use the trait Bruising intellect I can add intelligence instead of charisma to intimidate, which helps. Intimidating prowess might be overkill, and I don't have a lot of space for other feats. Enforcer is great, the only problem is that it has to be non-lethal damage, which makes it more difficult. Up Close and Personal is there so that I can still move and get an extra attack, I mainly took Hurtful so that I can get an extra attack after a full attack.
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You don't need to pass the acrobatics check, but avoiding the attack of opportunity is nice.
Bruising Intellect will take care of the low Charisma if you just want Intimidate.
If you are allowed to use retraining rules, you could use Enforcer until you retrain it into Cornugon Smash. Twisting Fear with Dazzling Display and Disheartening Display can be quite scary as well. Shatter Defenses is also part of the line, and makes it easier to Hidden Strike.
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Enforcer is great, the only problem is that it has to be non-lethal damage, which makes it more difficultWorship Sarenrae
Take Blade of Mercy Trait
No -4 to NL. Slash attacks and +1 NL damage
Carry a Greatsword and a few Chakrams and you are good to go! (Enforcer won't work with Chakrams, but my character likes the option of ranged nonlethal damage at no penalty.)
Wow, Blade of Mercy is absurd. Using that enforcer becomes remarkably easy, so I guess I will use that. I'll post a revised build with that in mind.