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44. "Hey dude, could you help me get the gaming material out of my car trunk?"
"Sure, pal."
*walkwalkwalkwalkKA-TRUNK!*
"Uhhh...why's there a mutilated corpse in your trunk?"
"Whoopsie-daisy, forgot about that...."45. Player was recruited online, but seriously misrepresented who they were, is in fact a flippant and very messy macaw.
... Err to increase immersion
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47. Say, "I dont do politics at the table guys." Then interrupts the game repeatedly to argue why.
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44. "Hey dude, could you help me get the gaming material out of my car trunk?"
"Sure, pal."
*walkwalkwalkwalkKA-TRUNK!*
"Uhhh...why's there a mutilated corpse in your trunk?"
"Whoopsie-daisy, forgot about that...."
So wait, what's the problem there? I feel like you forgot to post the second half of the post.
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49. Being the only drunk player, and being so drunk, you can't keep up with the events or sense the mood the GM is trying to set.
50. Trying to assert, over and over, that your character is objectively better than another player's character.
51. Bringing in vulgar/sexual/over-gorey descriptions when anyone in the group has already made it known they are uncomfortable with content like that.
52. Refusing to handle mature content in a mature way.
53. Getting mad at the GM for something your character did that the GM did not even suggest should happen.
54. Trying to force a joke character into a serious game.
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55. Insisting on bringing anything to the game too young to have a coherent conversation with (I'd say 5 years old should be the absolute minimum, and that may only be in the case of prodigies). True, most people will probably endure the ensuing atmospheric disruptions and various sensory offenses to be polite, but the fact remains the rest of us didn't come here for that. It's D&D, not Gymboree.
Dunno, there are many days I'd rather have a conversation with my five year old than most adults. I'd append the above to add that you shouldn't have more atmospheric disruptions and various sensory offenses than a child as well.
56. Doesn't respect my special snowscape! I already told you, half-elves are sterile just like donkeys! That's how it is in my snowscape, and you must not challenge it!!
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57. Bringing illegal drugs to the game. I'm glad you may enjoy them. That said, I'd prefer my night not end in a narco bust.
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58.) Killing a player.
59.) Killing a player character.
58.) Killing a player.
59.) Killing a player character.
Have to disagree on 59. Not saying it should be a common event, but PvP is a viable part of the game and CAN add to the story.
It was half a joke on the threads that occasionally pop up with titles like "Help me kill this player!" (when they mean PC) though I admit I'm not a fan of PvP unless both parties OOC decide it's what makes sense and there would be no hard feelings either way.
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60. Attempting to spread or engaging in Bieber Fever .
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64. Using Troglodyte Stench, out of character.
65. Having character use polymorph effects to change visible race of other player's characters, due to personal dislike of a race.
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66. Agreeing to a limitation of source materials (e.g. CRB and APG only) and then constantly sneaking in options from other sources and claiming that you forgot or didn't see where it was from. Once or twice is ok, but repeat offenders will be banished.
67. Jumping at every single opportunity to correct the GM when you think he deviated from RAW, even if the situation is not clearly covered by the rules and must be resolved by the GM's call. Bonus points if, whenever the GM resolves a situation you are not 100% comfortable with, you begin researching rules on the PRD or messageboards to find arguments against it and miss out on your turn.
67a. As a variant of 67, collecting GM rulings with total disregard to the actual context or situation to throw it in his face when he dares to rule differently in a different context or situation. Possibly bby holding your tablet in his face so the GM sees the skill DC listings and understand the error of his ways.
67b. Or taking notes on NPCs and trying to prove that the GM didn't adhere to the rules when building them ("That guy was 5th level and he did cast like a sorcerer and had a familiar but one spell was clearly a Druid spell and he also wore armor and used a polearm... this can't be right!") without even knowing what's possible with the source materials allowed.
68. Being the guy who reminds the GM that novel#245 clearly states that NPC#65 and NPC#836 married two years after event#9476 and so they can't possibily be enemies in this scenario and clearly this all shows that the GM has no idea about the setting he plays in and should do his homework.
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69. You invest character resources in X and not Y, then when the guy who invested in Y is better at Y than you are, you roll your eyes, toss your hands in the air, call him names, and so forth. Bonus points if just half an hour ago you gloated about being the best at X or chastised the group because you're the only one investing in X (even if X is something the party only needs one person doing, because teamwork).
70. You run a meatgrinder campaign, then complain when the players either make super-powerful characters or stop writing immersive backstories for characters they know will only last a couple of sessions at most before dying.
71. Someone learns of the babau's slime (whether via Knowledge or just running face-first into it) and when describing it, you begin to energetically argue your case about how you're ruling that it bypasses hardness or whatever when nobody else has said a word, let alone questioned anything you've said.
72. You grin from ear to ear as you have your NPC bandit with cavalier levels (who won initiative) open with a Spirited Charge that seriously injures a PC, then when a PC cavalier uses his turn to Spirited Charge right back, you fight tooth and nail to find a reason his charge won't work and, failing to shout down the entire table, throw your hands in the air and ask everybody if they want you to just wipe the map and move on since you guys obviously aren't interested in playing this out.
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64. Using Troglodyte Stench, out of character.
Are you referring to when a player's digestive system is acting like an endless decanter of stinking cloud, or something else?
74. Lack of brain faculties + lack of attention.
One is forgivable, other is not, the two together is a disaster. And no this person is not disabled, theyre just not very smart.
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75. "Ok, so, there are no elves in this campaign world? What If I make an Elf planeswalker apprentice and came here from another world via a portal my master made?"
This everytime we start a new story. Other examples include "Pirates you say? Vikings were technically pirates right?"
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73. Demanding different levels of first-person acting for different kinds of d20 rolls, and penalizing the results of those who fail to sufficiently comply.
I Have literally never seen this happen; only the inverse (you actually try to play your character, and the DM/other players shut you up and/or pick on you for it). It's a roleplaying game; people need to learn to frigging roleplay and stop passive-aggressively edging out those who do.
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73. Demanding different levels of first-person acting for different kinds of d20 rolls, and penalizing the results of those who fail to sufficiently comply.I Have literally never seen this happen; only the inverse (you actually try to play your character, and the DM/other players shut you up and/or pick on you for it). It's a roleplaying game; people need to learn to frigging roleplay and stop passive-aggressively edging out those who do.
I have literally never seen that happen; only the inverse (you describe your intents and methods in at least as much detail as your last dozen d20 rolls, but the GM says "no roll unless you act it out first, because ROLEPLAY").
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76. Derailing perfectly enjoyable sessions with old gaming-related controversies. Yes, we get it. This was an argument y'all were in once. You really don't need to involve it in everything you do from now on.
Is what I say to the gamers who do this, of course. I'm glad forums never have to deal with anything similar.
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77. Incessant Monty Python jokes after being told to tone it down.
78. Kicking the host's cat.
79. Casually taking your actual real-world handgun from its holster while arguing with the GM, and only returning it when the GM backs down.
80. Throwing a full-on temper tantrum at the gaming table (for getting killed/not getting the best magic item/GM says 'no'/etc). These are annoying with three-year-olds, but just pitiful with thirty-year-olds.
81. Regularly calling the GM at odd hours with "awesome ideas about my character!" Including in the middle of the night when the guy KNOWS the GM has young children who don't sleep soundly.
82. Bringing illegal drugs into the host's house.
83. Showing up for the game while having a full-on psychotic episode. That was one of the scariest nights of my life.
I am sooooo glad I've never been around ANY of those people, with the exception of the Monty Python quoter. I've never even met anyone who's gamed with people like the ones you mentioned. I've read horror stories about this sort of thing, but it boggles my mind that they actually exist.
77. Incessant Monty Python jokes after being told to tone it down.
78. Kicking the host's cat.
79. Casually taking your actual real-world handgun from its holster while arguing with the GM, and only returning it when the GM backs down.
80. Throwing a full-on temper tantrum at the gaming table (for getting killed/not getting the best magic item/GM says 'no'/etc). These are annoying with three-year-olds, but just pitiful with thirty-year-olds.
81. Regularly calling the GM at odd hours with "awesome ideas about my character!" Including in the middle of the night when the guy KNOWS the GM has young children who don't sleep soundly.
82. Bringing illegal drugs into the host's house.
83. Showing up for the game while having a full-on psychotic episode. That was one of the scariest nights of my life.
If you have a cat that scratches people then you should have that animal closed off in a bedroom for the DURATION of the game. I reserve the right to flip an animal across the room that attacks me. I also reserve the right to drink your beer if your cat attacks me.
Full disclaimer: I have a dog that bites people, and a full 30 minutes before game time he gets to be in my bedroom so my house guests don't get bit. It isn't just a curtesy, it's also avoiding liability.
Cat scratch =/= dog bite. If you're too sissy to tolerate a cat scratch, leave them alone.
Ahem. My mom almost lost her left thumb.
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Cats generally scratch people who bother them, since, unlike dogs, they don't usually feel obligated to "protect the home". It's possible that this cat has/had a history of aggression, but we can't assume that this was some sort of hyper-aggressive killer cat negligently allowed to prowl the halls without hearing more background from Haladir. And since this wasn't his cat, he may not even know.
That's an improbable scenario, and it still doesn't give you the right to abuse animals.
If there is a possibility that your animal will attack me as a guest then you should be a good host and see that the animal is secured before your guests arrive. If your animal attacks me in your home where I was invited then my reaction send the animal across the room in an attempt to prevent further attack and harm to my person does not make me the unreasonable party.
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"Excuse me, your toddler bit me. I think we can all see who the real victim is here."
No offense, but you're a lot bigger and more dangerous than a housecat.* As my good mother often said in my younger years, "[KC], don't hit your sister. I don't care if she hit you first, she's smaller than you."
Downright unreasonable woman.
*Wait, are you a commoner? What level are you?
"Excuse me, your toddler bit me. I think we can all see who the real victim is here."
No offense, but you're a lot bigger and more dangerous than a housecat.* As my good mother often said in my younger years, "[KC], don't hit your sister. I don't care if she hit you first, she's smaller than you."
Downright unreasonable woman.
*Wait, are you a commoner? What level are you?
If you have a biting toddler I would expect you to have it out of the way as well, though if your toddler was roaming the floor, pounced, and scratched me, then I would probably just slap you.
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New thread: Can a baby (not a goblin baby) kill a first-level commoner? And if so, does the paladin—*implosion*
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You always say "yes" if someone asks about the Paladin falling.
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64. Using Troglodyte Stench, out of character.Are you referring to when a player's digestive system is acting like an endless decanter of stinking cloud, or something else?
I could understand how you might think that, but I'd call that "using Stinking Cloud ability out of character".
No, I'm talking about a player who had such an aroma that it was difficult to define, having notes of such scents as "burning diaper", "raw sewage", and "waterlogged carcass". Even if he hadn't stolen money, he would not have been asked to return.
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If there is a possibility that your animal will attack me as a guest then you should be a good host and see that the animal is secured before your guests arrive. If your animal attacks me in your home where I was invited then my reaction send the animal across the room in an attempt to prevent further attack and harm to my person does not make me the unreasonable party.
Yes it does - if you're scared of (of all things) cats, then leave them alone. Easy as pie.
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Yes it does - if you're scared of (of all things) cats, then leave them alone. Easy as pie.
If there is a possibility that your animal will attack me as a guest then you should be a good host and see that the animal is secured before your guests arrive. If your animal attacks me in your home where I was invited then my reaction send the animal across the room in an attempt to prevent further attack and harm to my person does not make me the unreasonable party.
It has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with not being attacked by an animal in a place where I was invited to enjoy an evening of gaming with friends. This wouldn't be my reaction to a cat approaching me, nor would it be my reaction to a cat batting my pant leg with its paw, but my reaction to having a claw hook my flesh and drawing blood. It is completely unacceptable as a host and irresponsible as a pet owner to allow an animal around strangers (to it) that it may attack. It isn't fair to put the animal in an environment where it feels stressed to the point of attack and it isn't fair to your guests to subject them to your unsocialized violent animal.
We have a dog rescue and get all kinds of dogs with socialization and emotional issues. I know within an hour of working with a dog if they can be around when strangers show up, you should know your cat at least that well.
I am absolutely gob smacked that saying, "prevent your animals from attacking my person in your home," is meeting such strong resistance.
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Guys, please take the animal cruelty vs when animals attack debate to private messaging or drop it. This isn't the thread for that.
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Any animal that ever existed, exists, and ever will exist MAY attack you at any time.
Generally speaking though, none of them, especially cats, will do so unless you mess with them.
If you f*@+ with my cat, you deserve to get scratched.
What you're really saying is "lock up your pets when I'm around" which is a reasonable request I suppose, but it shouldn't be because the animal MAY attack you unless the animal has a history of violence against people, which is a whole different story that seems to have no bearing on this conversation.
I am absolutely gob smacked that saying "don't punt the f@#+ing cat" is meeting such strong resistance.
If you kicked my cat for ANY reason, you wouldn't just get kicked out of my house (and the game), I would at best never want to see your cat kicking face around again.
...I say as one of the cats hops up on the armrest of my chair, making it hard to continue typing.
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Cats bring the whole world together in harmony.
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Any animal that ever existed, exists, and ever will exist MAY attack you at any time.
Generally speaking though, none of them, especially cats, will do so unless you mess with them.
If you f%!# with my cat, you deserve to get scratched.
What you're really saying is "lock up your pets when I'm around" which is a reasonable request I suppose, but it shouldn't be because the animal MAY attack you unless the animal has a history of violence against people, which is a whole different story that seems to have no bearing on this conversation.
I am absolutely gob smacked that saying "don't punt the f#**ing cat" is meeting such strong resistance.
If you kicked my cat for ANY reason, you wouldn't just get kicked out of my house (and the game), I would at best never want to see your cat kicking face around again.
...I say as one of the cats hops up on the armrest of my chair, making it hard to continue typing.
Well, no wonder you're writing in their favor, with the cat watching you so closely. Rynjin, are you okay? Type "banana" if you're being threatened right now. Wait, s$+#, the cat can probably read that. Forget I said anything.
Of everying I wrote above, I really thought "don't kick the cat" would be the least controversial! I think that has played out, so let's drop it or move to another thread.
What kind of "psychotic episode" are we talking about here?
This was more than 20 years ago, when I played in my college gaming club. We ran on Friday nights in one of the academic buildings, using several classrooms with conference tables. The club was open to the public, and more than a few townies would join us.
The player in question was a townie, probably in her late 30s/ early 40s, and only came to the college gaming club two or three times a month. She had always been more than a little weird, but that night she was hearing voices (and talking back to them), making completely nonsensical conversation, and generally behaving like she was on another planet. None of us had any idea what to do, so we kind of ignored her as best as we could, except when she would shout at us, demanding attention. After two hours or so, she ended up excusing herself to go to the bathroom, and never returned to the table. We assumed that she just went home. Three hours later, another female player told me that the person in question was still in the women's room, chain-smoking and mumbling nonsense to herself. I called campus security, gave a statement, and let them take it from there.
She never came back, and I never saw her or heard from her again.
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73. Demanding different levels of first-person acting for different kinds of d20 rolls, and penalizing the results of those who fail to sufficiently comply.I take it you're one of those folks who prefer that social encounters be handled in the form of "I roll a 32 diplomacy..."
Not in the least, and we learn a lot about you from your assumption that I am.
84. When someone questions one of your double-standards, you assume they must be "one of them" and ascribe extreme behaviors/thoughts to them that do not in any way follow logically from what they said.