Honestly, I would say the Blood of Dragons disqualifies you from the Eldritch Heritage line, since it counts as sorcerer(draconic) and for EH you must not have the bloodline.
Except he specifically took EH first.
Most recently this specific question was raised seems to be a year ago. So I am re asking in hopes I missed a decision made somewhere.
Guy takes Eldritch Heritage at 3rd level.
Then takes DD at 6th level.
(lets assume he qualifies, somehow, without sorcerer levels)2 pools or stacking or what?
Its easy to qualify without Sorcerer levels. Bard or Summoner. Or Kobold Oracle with a feat.
A dragon disciple adds his level to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers gained from his bloodline.
You gain the first-level bloodline power for the selected bloodline. For purposes of using that power, treat your sorcerer level as equal to your character level – 2
I think they would stack.
EH gives you a Sorcerer level that BoD can add to. But I am sure someone will disagree.
It doesn't matter if he took EH first. DD means he no longer meets the prerequisite, and therefore loses access to the feat.
INCORRECT!
Not having the bloodline is not a pre-requisite of the feat.
In the text of the feat, it says "This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have."
before this time : before now : before that time
The character did not have the bloodline before taking the feat, and still meets all the pre-reqs, so he keeps the feat.
It doesn't matter if he took EH first. DD means he no longer meets the prerequisite, and therefore loses access to the feat.
INCORRECT!
Not having the bloodline is not a pre-requisite of the feat.
In the text of the feat, it says "This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have."
before this time : before now : before that timeThe character did not have the bloodline before taking the feat, and still meets all the pre-reqs, so he keeps the feat.
To quote an Arthur Miller play, "Oh-ho! It is a proper (rules) lawyer!"
It appears he has the right of it.
Either the EH will need retraining since he no longer qualify or it will be redundant since it gives the same as DD but with no stacking, since EH dosent give a bloodline but just some of its powers.
Either the EH will need retraining since he no longer qualify or it will be redundant since it gives the same as DD but with no stacking, since EH dosent give a bloodline but just some of its powers.DD doesn't give a full bloodline either; it only grants the powers if you lack Sorc levels (you do wind up getting more stuff, but separately with a separate ability).
But DD says it builds on the bloodline not on bloodline powers gotten from somewhere else.
But VMC sorcerer migth do it?
A bank says they'll give me $10, but the stipulation is that I have to have a bank account first. I prove I have a bank account but with a different bank. They then say I have to have an account with them to get the $10. Playing along, I open an account with them. I don't ever intend to use the account that bank gave me, preferring to use the one I had already. To which account does the money get deposited, given I provided the bank with the details of my preferred account and they know about the account I signed up for to gain the money? Does it deposit into my bank, their bank, or both since I hold two accounts with banks?
If it's the level of the powers that we're questioning, you can't add the same thing to something more than once, so you get Diciple level + (character level -2 -Disciple level) = character level -2. Problem solved.
This isn't a rule, says the Daring Champion.
And you aren't adding the same thing twice.
Character level and class level are different things.
EH says you have a Sorcerer level for the bloodline power. DD adds to you Sorcerer level for bloodline powers.
Same with the robes.
Daring Champion isn't adding the same thing twice. Level-to-challenge and level-to-Precise Strike are not the same thing, and even if they were they're creating different bonus types so it works.
As for it not being a rule... ask the Monk 2/Sacred Fist X how many times he adds his Wis to AC.
Class level to damage and class level to damage are the same thing, but from different sources. Just as effective sorcerer levels based on character level from a few and effective sorcerer levels based on class level from a class level from a class ability are different sources.
And there is a FAQ on adding ability modifiers more than once. It is explicitly about ability modifiers, not anything else, and even then only abilities that add them as unnamed bonuses.
As long as you don't take sorcerer levels ever I think you can have EH and DD. Maybe the levels stack up to character HD so you get rid of the -2
Okay sure, I could buy that argument.