Here's a question, what does any of this crap have to do with carting his gear around?
Because people were questioning his impetus for carrying around a bastard sword and a rapier. (Were he to drop one of them it would reduce the weight of stuff he's carrying, etc)
I didn't say he was being practical, just answering The Indescribable's question. :P
EDIT: Personally, I would just take the bastard sword, forget the rapier, pay a caster to cast masterwork transformation on the bastard sword, and then use a second weapon that I found along the way when I had better sorted out my strength issues.
Also, effortless lace is really nice O_o
So you're intention is to play this character and be basically unworkable until 11? Do you not see what's wrong with this picture?You're starting to see the picture. This build starts off slow, but in the long run it'll really pay off... assuming I can survive the first few levels.Ummm...I'm going to keep an archived copy of this post. Just because of so much it would be beneath etiquette to mention. You do understand the penalties involved in trying to dual wield bastard swords? You're looking at a -4 to both hits even with the feats.Two-Weapon Warrior fixes this problem at 11th level.
well I think he said it is for the Wrath of the Righteous AP
which could...change thingsbut other than that
yeah
I am right there with you
this is not really a thread about low-level encumbrance
It's not unworkable, especially now that I know about Effortless Lace, which should make this build workable much earlier (assuming we can find a way to get our hands on it). Until then, I can use a light weapon in the off-hand, and be no worse than any other TWF fighter.
Edit: Also, isn't Rapier light? If not, I can easily switch it out for something that is. The only reason I'm taking rapier over something else is because of the critical range, which isn't anything to cry over if I need to downgrade.
It's not unworkable, especially now that I know about Effortless Lace, which should make this build workable much earlier (assuming we can find a way to get our hands on it). Until then, I can use a light weapon in the off-hand, and be no worse than any other TWF fighter.
Edit: Also, isn't Rapier light? If not, I can easily switch it out for something that is. The only reason I'm taking rapier over something else is because of the critical range, which isn't anything to cry over if I need to downgrade.
Rapier is a One-Handed Weapon.
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It's not unworkable, especially now that I know about Effortless Lace, which should make this build workable much earlier (assuming we can find a way to get our hands on it). Until then, I can use a light weapon in the off-hand, and be no worse than any other TWF fighter.
Edit: Also, isn't Rapier light? If not, I can easily switch it out for something that is. The only reason I'm taking rapier over something else is because of the critical range, which isn't anything to cry over if I need to downgrade.
A rapier is NOT light - it just can be used with Weapon Finesse.
And you will be worse off than any other TWF fighter. The whole point of going TWF is to stack as many static bonuses on both weapons as possible. Weapon Focus/Spec & Weapon Training. Without those stacked on both weapons - TWF is bad. Not to mention that Slashing Grace won't work on the off-hand if it's light.
And if you're going with Effortless Lace (if your GM allows it - it's from a companion - and like much from them - it's not really balanced) - a bastard sword isn't really a very good exotic weapon - not worth a feat. The falcatta is generally considered the best one-handed weapon in the game.
If you're playing Wrath of the Righteous Mythic Weapon Finesse is on the table. Just saying.
Oh, whoops. I thought for sure there was a way to do that sooner. I hate to bring this up, but how did the Drizzt build manage TWF with scimitars?
If you're meaning the original, late AD&D first edition Drizz't Do'Urden, TWF rules worked differently then. There was no such thing as a light weapon and he got an exemption from the existing rule that your off-hand weapon had to be smaller than the main hand via Rule of Cool. Which got grandfathered into 2e as a general rule for the ranger character class.
Now, an edition or three later, you'll need different rules to work with.
The creator of the item has explained the RaI and his personal reasoning for why the TWF penalties are included. It's absolutely intended to reduce the penalties for TWF with one-handed weapons.