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Liberty's Edge

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Third one in Beginner Box. Flagged.

Feels like voting for RPGSS 1st round :-))


OK, so I flagged a few just as the mods got them.

Yay!

But these -spammers- are getting a tad sarcastic...at least two of the posts said 'newlol'.

Grrrrrrr.


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As a casual member, I too, can no longer ignore these imbeciles from messing the boards. Come to me, my pretties... We shall rain down flags upon our enemies, and crush them beneath our heels!

*flags like a madman*

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


Wow.

I was a tad curious, so I went back and checked: first post on this thread was on April 15, 2015 at 6:31 AM.

These -spammers- just don't seem to be learning!


Well I have not seen any spam all day *knocks on wood*

So is this due to extra work of our friendly moderators?

Or did they figure out a way to keep them out?


Or perhaps they're still sleeping.

Odds are they'll wake up and get spamming around 11:00 PM Atlantic Standard Time... that's when I usually see them begin.


Figures. They've returned.

I was only off by, what... half an hour?


Sigh...me and wishful thinking, :(


They're... they're spreading! It's like a disease! They've infected the Website Feedback forums now!

Anyone have any paladins with the remove disease mercy available? We need some divine intervention with this stuff.


Hmm... has anyone encountered any other spam threads tonight? I feel this is the calm before the storm...


General Discussion is getting spammed.

Apparently, they're advertising for the NBA. In Korean.

Software Developer

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There have been three so far.

I'm just casually nuking things. Sorry if I take a couple moments.

Crafting! Crafffting! Craaaafting!

Seriously.


Your work in keeping these spammers at bay is, as always, greatly appreciated. :)

Software Developer

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Likewise, always greatly appreciate the community work flagging the spammers.

You peeps make our lives easier. :)


Got some more.

This time, they appear to be laughing over their new accounts.

Either that, or they're talking about a new League of Legends patch or something...

;)

Liberty's Edge

I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.

I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )


Cort Odekirk wrote:

Most search engine ratings are based (at least partially) on the number of links to your site from other sites. The content of the message is irrelevant, they are not trying to sell anything. They just want a lot of links to their site to be there when the various search engines crawl the forums.

The messages are actually largely beside the point. The entire objective is to make the sites in the messages rank higher in various search engines.

Can you set a flag so Google's Robot will not count outgoing links from Paizo's site?

Or Google could use some filter to exclude the spam links?
Seemingly do-able, since there is relatively little outlinks from the forums here in general, and certainly not massive #s of links to one site like the spammers are doing...
Doesn't seem like Google counting outgoing links serves any purpose of Paizo,
and Google would seemingly want to negate searchrank manipulation/fraud, so should be happy to facilitate this...?
I'm not sure how Paizo Web Team would communicate with Google's Search Devs/ Anti-Fraud Team,
but any approach they might use to nullify the search fraud stemming from the forum spam here at Paizo would seem easy enough to extend to ALL forum spam across the internet, thus a major nullifier of searchrank fraud.
Let the spammers know that Google is no longer counting outgoing links from Paizo's forum [either they recognize the flags used to achieve it, or they just see their searchrank fraud is no longer working), and they lose their motivation for the spam...?


I find it kinda funny that the spammers have to resort to ALL CAPS. XD

Software Developer

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William Ronald wrote:

I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.

I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )

You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.

Nuked.


Julie Iaccarino wrote:
William Ronald wrote:

I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.

I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )

You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.

Nuked.

...

...

:D

I miss the Ion Cannon from Command & Conquer.


I daydream about a virus that would not only brick the spammer's computers, but those of anyone who followed their links to the sites they're promoting.

Liberty's Edge

Julie Iaccarino wrote:
William Ronald wrote:

I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.

I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )

You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.

Nuked.

Well, it is one way to be sure. Sadly, I don't think you have anyone who can send them for a nice visit to Zon-Kuthon. I am sure he could think of something inventive.


O_O

Jeez, they're definitely annoying as hell, but even I wouldn't wish that on them...

Technology Manager

Quandary wrote:
Cort Odekirk wrote:

Most search engine ratings are based (at least partially) on the number of links to your site from other sites. The content of the message is irrelevant, they are not trying to sell anything. They just want a lot of links to their site to be there when the various search engines crawl the forums.

The messages are actually largely beside the point. The entire objective is to make the sites in the messages rank higher in various search engines.

Can you set a flag so Google's Robot will not count outgoing links from Paizo's site?

Or Google could use some filter to exclude the spam links?
Seemingly do-able, since there is relatively little outlinks from the forums here in general, and certainly not massive #s of links to one site like the spammers are doing...
Doesn't seem like Google counting outgoing links serves any purpose of Paizo,
and Google would seemingly want to negate searchrank manipulation/fraud, so should be happy to facilitate this...?
I'm not sure how Paizo Web Team would communicate with Google's Search Devs/ Anti-Fraud Team,
but any approach they might use to nullify the search fraud stemming from the forum spam here at Paizo would seem easy enough to extend to ALL forum spam across the internet, thus a major nullifier of searchrank fraud.
Let the spammers know that Google is no longer counting outgoing links from Paizo's forum [either they recognize the flags used to achieve it, or they just see their searchrank fraud is no longer working), and they lose their motivation for the spam...?

The ironic thing is we have flagged the site to have Google ignore the links. The spammers just don't realize it. Even if we weren't erasing them, their posts would do them absolutely no good on Google, although in fairness it would on other search crawlers that don't ignore robot.txt.

Software Developer

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Cort: emergency.

I got tacos to assist in banning spammers and I ate too many tacos.


Hahaha...
So really, the only reason they think their tactic is still working, is because it is still working on OTHER sites,
and they haven't noticed that Paizo is no longer helping their pagerank fraud...

Maybe you can update the front page Store Blog for a few days to explain how the site html flags Google Robots to ignore it?
Although that depends on the spammers actually visiting/viewing the site normally...

If it comes down to an issue of communicating this fact about the Robots flag to them,
perhaps instead of/ in addition to implementing IP blocks, you could implement a measure
to return an "error message" to these blocked IPs when they try to post (I guess they can't be blocked from logging in)
which doesn't let them post, and says "this site is flagged IGNORE for Google Robots.txt".
If their bots can return error messages to them, then they will get the message...???
Not sure what other flags you could use for other Search Engines they may be interested in for their target market...?

Software Developer

That's assuming they can even read English, which I wouldn't take as a granted.


:-)
Sure, although recognizing html keywords of "ignore flag google robots.txt" etc, may be recognizable to the bot controllers (enough to bring issue to their attentino), even if fluent English is not their forte... ???? /crossed fingers

Shadow Lodge

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Julie Iaccarino wrote:
I ate too many tacos.

I don't understand.


^I think that was a reference to an overzealous attempt to make sure that our efforts don't run out of gas.

Software Developer

Spammers are coming. Think it's just one. I'm smacking them down every five seconds.

Any Paizo staff want the hammer?


TOZ wrote:
Julie Iaccarino wrote:
I ate too many tacos.
I don't understand.

You don't understand? That must be because current AI programs are unable to understand context needed for natural language processing at the same level as humans.

It's settled, TOZ is the double-agent spambot!


To Arms! To Arms!


Flagged two in Online Campaigns General Discussion.


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Flagged some in...the PaizoCon Discussion group?!?

Well they are being thorough in their attempts to spread their links around.

Technology Manager

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Feros wrote:

Flagged some in...the PaizoCon Discussion group?!?

Well they are being thorough in their attempts to spread their links around.

Yeah, I've notice the quantity is significantly reduced but they are spreading it around. I suspect they've notice the increased moderation/other steps we've put in place and are trying to work around them manually.

They can try....


If the pattern persists, I would expect them to return in roughly 7~8 hours. I could be wrong though.

Technology Manager

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Pinewoodpine wrote:
If the pattern persists, I would expect them to return in roughly 7~8 hours. I could be wrong though.

Yeah it's been slow for the last few hours, the Banhammer hungers.....

Silver Crusade System Administrator

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=)

Technology Manager

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Hopefully your shift is more exciting than mine, the spammers, they have learned fear.


Sarcasm Dragon wrote:
It's settled, TOZ is the double-agent spambot!

Have you only just now noticed?


I love the peace and quiet.

Thank you, oh so worthy board monitors!


So it's safe to untwist the general discussion boards? >_>


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Some new spammers offering lottery winning spells (in English).

And some idiots responding to them. Please don't do that....


Yay! Finally some spam threads speaking in languages we can understand.

Also, don't go calling people idiots. Not everybody knows the drill about these threads yet.


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Cort Odekirk wrote:
Hopefully your shift is more exciting than mine...

The fact you guys are rostering yourselves after hours is greatly appreciate on this side of the world. I hate the fact you have to do it but am nonetheless very thankful.

Silver Crusade Contributor

It begins!

(Paizo General Discussion.)

Liberty's Edge

Time to respond. (I caught one earlier.)

Dark Archive

Check out Mark's Stalker Thread.


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