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I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.
I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )
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![Ardeth](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/ardeth.jpg)
Most search engine ratings are based (at least partially) on the number of links to your site from other sites. The content of the message is irrelevant, they are not trying to sell anything. They just want a lot of links to their site to be there when the various search engines crawl the forums.
The messages are actually largely beside the point. The entire objective is to make the sites in the messages rank higher in various search engines.
Can you set a flag so Google's Robot will not count outgoing links from Paizo's site?
Or Google could use some filter to exclude the spam links?Seemingly do-able, since there is relatively little outlinks from the forums here in general, and certainly not massive #s of links to one site like the spammers are doing...
Doesn't seem like Google counting outgoing links serves any purpose of Paizo,
and Google would seemingly want to negate searchrank manipulation/fraud, so should be happy to facilitate this...?
I'm not sure how Paizo Web Team would communicate with Google's Search Devs/ Anti-Fraud Team,
but any approach they might use to nullify the search fraud stemming from the forum spam here at Paizo would seem easy enough to extend to ALL forum spam across the internet, thus a major nullifier of searchrank fraud.
Let the spammers know that Google is no longer counting outgoing links from Paizo's forum [either they recognize the flags used to achieve it, or they just see their searchrank fraud is no longer working), and they lose their motivation for the spam...?
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Julie Iaccarino Software Developer |
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I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.
I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )
You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.
Nuked.
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William Ronald wrote:I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.
I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )
You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.
Nuked.
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:D
I miss the Ion Cannon from Command & Conquer.
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![Darl Quethos](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/DarlQuethos_finish.jpg)
William Ronald wrote:I flagged two in Pathfinder RPG General Discussion and one in Pathfinder Society General Discussion.
I will flag when I find stuff. My hope is that the Powers That Be at Paizo will have some ideas after Gen Con about what to do with the spammers. (Sorry folks, catapults and the Grand Canyon are probably not options here. ;) )
You'd be surprised what we discuss as options.
Nuked.
Well, it is one way to be sure. Sadly, I don't think you have anyone who can send them for a nice visit to Zon-Kuthon. I am sure he could think of something inventive.
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Cort Odekirk Technology Manager |
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Cort Odekirk wrote:Most search engine ratings are based (at least partially) on the number of links to your site from other sites. The content of the message is irrelevant, they are not trying to sell anything. They just want a lot of links to their site to be there when the various search engines crawl the forums.
The messages are actually largely beside the point. The entire objective is to make the sites in the messages rank higher in various search engines.
Can you set a flag so Google's Robot will not count outgoing links from Paizo's site?
Or Google could use some filter to exclude the spam links?
Seemingly do-able, since there is relatively little outlinks from the forums here in general, and certainly not massive #s of links to one site like the spammers are doing...
Doesn't seem like Google counting outgoing links serves any purpose of Paizo,
and Google would seemingly want to negate searchrank manipulation/fraud, so should be happy to facilitate this...?
I'm not sure how Paizo Web Team would communicate with Google's Search Devs/ Anti-Fraud Team,
but any approach they might use to nullify the search fraud stemming from the forum spam here at Paizo would seem easy enough to extend to ALL forum spam across the internet, thus a major nullifier of searchrank fraud.
Let the spammers know that Google is no longer counting outgoing links from Paizo's forum [either they recognize the flags used to achieve it, or they just see their searchrank fraud is no longer working), and they lose their motivation for the spam...?
The ironic thing is we have flagged the site to have Google ignore the links. The spammers just don't realize it. Even if we weren't erasing them, their posts would do them absolutely no good on Google, although in fairness it would on other search crawlers that don't ignore robot.txt.
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Hahaha...
So really, the only reason they think their tactic is still working, is because it is still working on OTHER sites,
and they haven't noticed that Paizo is no longer helping their pagerank fraud...
Maybe you can update the front page Store Blog for a few days to explain how the site html flags Google Robots to ignore it?
Although that depends on the spammers actually visiting/viewing the site normally...
If it comes down to an issue of communicating this fact about the Robots flag to them,
perhaps instead of/ in addition to implementing IP blocks, you could implement a measure
to return an "error message" to these blocked IPs when they try to post (I guess they can't be blocked from logging in)
which doesn't let them post, and says "this site is flagged IGNORE for Google Robots.txt".
If their bots can return error messages to them, then they will get the message...???
Not sure what other flags you could use for other Search Engines they may be interested in for their target market...?
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Cort Odekirk Technology Manager |
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Flagged some in...the PaizoCon Discussion group?!?
Well they are being thorough in their attempts to spread their links around.
Yeah, I've notice the quantity is significantly reduced but they are spreading it around. I suspect they've notice the increased moderation/other steps we've put in place and are trying to work around them manually.
They can try....