Hi all,
couldn't find a satisfactory answer online if I for example wanted to wield a large Falcata as a medium creature 2 handed can I do that? do I suffer a -2 Penalty for inappropriately sized weapons?
and I guess most importantly is there a weapon that already exists that mimics a Greatsword as an exotic weapon with 19-20x3 crit?
You can wield it two-handed for the penalty for inappropriately sized weapons.
Not that I know of.
Yes, a -2 penalty and you also need the weapon proficiency, of course, or you take an additional -4 penalty for that.
The closest one I know of is the Elven Curved Blade. It's a d10 instead of 2d6, but there's no attack penalty for oversized weapon.
DM_Blake wrote: Yes, a -2 penalty and you also need the weapon proficiency, of course, or you take an additional -4 penalty for that.
The closest one I know of is the Elven Curved Blade. It's a d10 instead of 2d6, but there's no attack penalty for oversized weapon.
yeah i know the curve blade was trying to find something with more than a x20 and greater than x2 crit
the 3.5 weapon from monster manual 3 was the one i always used to use 19-20x4
The Titan Mauler Barbarian shaves off the -2 penalty as it goes up levels, but otherwise you're pretty much stuck with it if you want a 1d12 19-20x3. Compared to using a normal falcata, it's a -2ab penalty for a +2bonus to average damage, which is generally a lousy trade unless the plan is to use Vital Strike or something. But it's not a terribly crippling penalty if that's what you want to swing around, assuming you bring a good attack rating to begin with.
BadBird wrote: The Titan Mauler Barbarian shaves off the -2 penalty as it goes up levels, but otherwise you're pretty much stuck with it if you want a 1d12 19-20x3. Compared to using a normal falcata, it's a -2ab penalty for a +2bonus to average damage, which is generally a lousy trade unless the plan is to use Vital Strike or something. But it's not a terribly crippling penalty if that's what you want to swing around, assuming you bring a good attack rating to begin with. the character is a mutation warrior fighter currently using a longsword
i am preparing for lvl 7 to take vestigial arm and trying to decide what weapon i want to be using at that point
Koshimo wrote: the character is a mutation warrior fighter Well there you go; the moment you pop that delicious mutagen you're +2ab over a normal fighter anyways, so hitting things shouldn't be an issue. Not that the bonus damage from a large weapon is going to make any real difference for a two-handed power attacking Fighter on strength-juice.
BadBird wrote: Koshimo wrote: the character is a mutation warrior fighter Well there you go; the moment you pop that delicious mutagen you're +2ab over a normal fighter anyways, so hitting things shouldn't be an issue. Not that the bonus damage from a large weapon is going to make any real difference for a two-handed power attacking Fighter on strength-juice. yeah but im sword and board twf so all bonuses to AB are welcome and giving up an additional -2 hurts
Koshimo wrote: DM_Blake wrote: Yes, a -2 penalty and you also need the weapon proficiency, of course, or you take an additional -4 penalty for that.
The closest one I know of is the Elven Curved Blade. It's a d10 instead of 2d6, but there's no attack penalty for oversized weapon.
yeah i know the curve blade was trying to find something with more than a x20 and greater than x2 crit
the 3.5 weapon from monster manual 3 was the one i always used to use 19-20x4 To the best of my knowledge the Falcata is the only weapon with an increase to both crit chance and crit damage.
Koshimo wrote: yeah but im sword and board twf so all bonuses to AB are welcome and giving up an additional -2 hurts Oh... hence the vestigial arm. I see. Well technically there's a rather goofy ruling that implies you can't ever use TWF while two-handing a weapon, ever, no matter what, but it's widely ignored. If you care about ab, then why make a weak trade-off?
BadBird wrote: Koshimo wrote: yeah but im sword and board twf so all bonuses to AB are welcome and giving up an additional -2 hurts Oh... hence the vestigial arm. I see. Well technically there's a rather goofy ruling that implies you can't ever use TWF while two-handing a weapon, ever, no matter what, but it's widely ignored. If you care about ab, then why make a weak trade-off? well that was part of the idea of this thread was to avoid said "weak" trade off and see if anything exists like the 3.5 fullblade, or great hammer
Here's something to consider:
The Sunblade is a +2 Bastard Sword with the ability to "spoof" the handling of a Shortsword. So, when you wield it, you treat it as a light weapon, but it deals 1d10 damage. Well, using oversized weapon rules, as a Medium creature, you can wield a Large Light weapon as if it were 1-h, and a Huge Light weapon as if it were 2-h. A Sunblade is counted as a Shortsword in regards to wielding it so, just as you could wield a Huge Shortsword (at -4 penalty to hit), you can wield a Huge Sunblade just the same. But, compared to a Shortsword going from 1d6 to 2d6, the Sunblade goes from 1d10 to 3d8. Moreover, a Huge Sunblade would be about 16' long which is just shy of the length of one wing of a Cessna 195. You're swinging around the equivalent of a small plane wing dealing 3d8 damage at the cost of -4 to attack. If you're a sufficiently leveled Titan Mauler, that penalty will go away by lvl 12 and even be equivalent to just wielding a Large weapon by lvl 6.
Another option is to use the Thunder and Fang feat to treat an Earthbreaker as a 1-h weapon so a Large Earthbreaker is treated as a 2-h weapon for you and 3d6 damage. This, however, involves a lot of wasted feats as it requires TWF and WF(Klar) which you won't be using. Lastly, just a straight up Huge Aklys will also get you to 3d6 damage with no feats necessary.
Kazaan wrote: Here's something to consider:
The Sunblade is a +2 Bastard Sword with the ability to "spoof" the handling of a Shortsword. So, when you wield it, you treat it as a light weapon, but it deals 1d10 damage. Well, using oversized weapon rules, as a Medium creature, you can wield a Large Light weapon as if it were 1-h, and a Huge Light weapon as if it were 2-h. A Sunblade is counted as a Shortsword in regards to wielding it so, just as you could wield a Huge Shortsword (at -4 penalty to hit), you can wield a Huge Sunblade just the same. But, compared to a Shortsword going from 1d6 to 2d6, the Sunblade goes from 1d10 to 3d8. Moreover, a Huge Sunblade would be about 16' long which is just shy of the length of one wing of a Cessna 195. You're swinging around the equivalent of a small plane wing dealing 3d8 damage at the cost of -4 to attack. If you're a sufficiently leveled Titan Mauler, that penalty will go away by lvl 12 and even be equivalent to just wielding a Large weapon by lvl 6.
Another option is to use the Thunder and Fang feat to treat an Earthbreaker as a 1-h weapon so a Large Earthbreaker is treated as a 2-h weapon for you and 3d6 damage. This, however, involves a lot of wasted feats as it requires TWF and WF(Klar) which you won't be using. Lastly, just a straight up Huge Aklys will also get you to 3d6 damage with no feats necessary.
Does that mean you would have reach?
kidding.
Komoda wrote: Kazaan wrote: Here's something to consider:
The Sunblade is a +2 Bastard Sword with the ability to "spoof" the handling of a Shortsword. So, when you wield it, you treat it as a light weapon, but it deals 1d10 damage. Well, using oversized weapon rules, as a Medium creature, you can wield a Large Light weapon as if it were 1-h, and a Huge Light weapon as if it were 2-h. A Sunblade is counted as a Shortsword in regards to wielding it so, just as you could wield a Huge Shortsword (at -4 penalty to hit), you can wield a Huge Sunblade just the same. But, compared to a Shortsword going from 1d6 to 2d6, the Sunblade goes from 1d10 to 3d8. Moreover, a Huge Sunblade would be about 16' long which is just shy of the length of one wing of a Cessna 195. You're swinging around the equivalent of a small plane wing dealing 3d8 damage at the cost of -4 to attack. If you're a sufficiently leveled Titan Mauler, that penalty will go away by lvl 12 and even be equivalent to just wielding a Large weapon by lvl 6.
Another option is to use the Thunder and Fang feat to treat an Earthbreaker as a 1-h weapon so a Large Earthbreaker is treated as a 2-h weapon for you and 3d6 damage. This, however, involves a lot of wasted feats as it requires TWF and WF(Klar) which you won't be using. Lastly, just a straight up Huge Aklys will also get you to 3d6 damage with no feats necessary.
Does that mean you would have reach?
kidding. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
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Koshimo wrote: large Falcata as a medium creature 2 handed can I do that? do I suffer a -2 Penalty for inappropriately sized weapons?
and I guess most importantly is there a weapon that already exists that mimics a Greatsword as an exotic weapon with 19-20x3 crit?
Inappropriate sized = -2 for bumping the one handed to two handed and allowing you to use a weapon one size larger than your size.
19-20x3 is the better than x4 or 18-20, so no.
The Melee Tactics book has a 1d6 19–20/×3 One-handed weapon called the Tongi.
blackbloodtroll wrote: The Melee Tactics book has a 1d6 19–20/×3 One-handed weapon called the Tongi. thats going in the wrong direction lol
looking for either a d10 or 12 19-20x3
Well, it is the only weapon, other than the Falcata, with a 19-20/x3 Crit range.
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