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Ok, I have read that medium sized creatures can not ride a medium sized mount..hence the Roc wont work for a human.

But what if I am a Gnome, buy the exotic saddle, and have the beast rider archetype. As a small creature I can ride a medium sized mount.

Can I use the Roc then? I have one as my animal companion from being a druid.

Suggestions and input please. :)


By raw, a cavalier can only choose between a few specific mounts, and the roc is not one of them. Even for the beast rider. You'll meed GM permission. Otherwise, a roc works based on size requirements alone.


Arklight wrote:
Ok, I have read that medium sized creatures can not ride a medium sized mount..hence the Roc wont work for a human.

Where have you read that? Afaik paizo intentionally removed that from the 3.5 rules when they switched to PF.

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Kind of implied with the introduction of Undersized Mount feat.

As for the proposed build, it would have 2 animal companions, a Roc and a Wolf (or pony or whatever else is legal for the beastrider). The roc would advance with druid levels and the other one with cavalier levels.


Rikkan wrote:
Arklight wrote:
Ok, I have read that medium sized creatures can not ride a medium sized mount..hence the Roc wont work for a human.
Where have you read that? Afaik paizo intentionally removed that from the 3.5 rules when they switched to PF.

The cavalier class states that small characters can ride medium mounts (or large mounts if a beast rider) and medium characters can ride a large mount (or huge if beast rider).

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Arklight wrote:
Ok, I have read that medium sized creatures can not ride a medium sized mount..hence the Roc wont work for a human.

How are you getting Roc on the Cavalier list? Taking levels in Druid make you have two different mounts unless the mount you take is on both lists.


Rikkan wrote:
Arklight wrote:
Ok, I have read that medium sized creatures can not ride a medium sized mount..hence the Roc wont work for a human.
Where have you read that? Afaik paizo intentionally removed that from the 3.5 rules when they switched to PF.

Pretty close, but it was unintentional. Lost in the chaos of the system change, like a few other things. Still meant to be there.

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