True, although pretty soon Shield is going to have their hands full...
Wesley- " Do you think I would leave a loaded gun on the table in front of you?"
Karen- "Do you think you're the first person I've shot?"
So much foreshadowing in the series. Love it.
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If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the index
The thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the indexThe thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
They specifically say she had them surgically grafted on though.
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They specifically say she had them surgically grafted on though.If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the indexThe thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
Karla Faye Gideon went on a killing spree with her razor fingers, which probably went a long way toward putting her on SHIELD's radar.
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If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the index...I would think they would maybe investigate it...but he has not made that big of a splash as of yet...I read that the show actually takes place 18 months after the first Avengers movie, so it takes place Pre-Winter Soldier.
Um as for why Hydra/Shield isn't interested? why would they be? The only thing reported in the media is that a highly skilled vigilante is running around. He's not punching people through walls or flying around in power armor...there is no indication he should belong on the index.
Hey, he's a lawyer... law enforcement is afraid of lawyers in general...
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Can't find anything that gives an exact date on what's happened and what hasn't in Daredevil, so all we know for sure is that the Battle of New York has happened. You'd think there'd have been a reference to the fallout from SHIELD dissolving, but there's nothing there. So, two options exist: either SHIELD is officially active, or unofficially active. In Case 1, we need to explain why Matt isn't on the list (or, if he is, why he's not more closely followed and watched). Case 2 is a bit easier to get behind. The SHIELD remnants are so dispersed that they don't have time to deal with a costumed vigilante.
And, honestly, that might be why SHIELD hasn't gone after him in the first place. Aside from Matt's fighting skills, his power is more or less invisible. Since Matt's only just started cleaning up Hell's Kitchen, SHIELD has had no reason to make finding the Devil of Hell's Kitchen and recruiting him. (As it happens, I would totally watch Matt Murdock: Agent of SHIELD.)
One more fun fact: Daredevil is the first Marvel Studios hero to actually have a secret identity.
Up until the first episode, Shield has no reason to have Murdock on any list. He has supernatural senses, which is more or less undetectable, and trains martial arts in secret. Not really something that can be identified ahead of time. Until s%+! hits the fan, all Shield really has to go on is that someone is going after the street gangs, which isn't a big priority. That scenario puts whoever it is at around the level of a top agent, which probably put a low-level agent in charge of IDing him. But he mostly goes dark after that, making their job difficult. So it isn't until the end that I feel it is reasonable to have SHIELD make contact.
Guys, Matt had super senses and something quite close to synaesthisia for YEARS, i find it very hard to believe that S.H.I.E.L.D didn't hear anything about him and (at least) put his name in the Index.
Also i was talking about the case that the daredevil series takes place after the dissolution of S.H.I.E.L.D. where both Hydra and Shield(s) have kept an eye on super powered individuals
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Guys, Matt had super senses and something quite close to synaesthisia for YEARS, i find it very hard to believe that S.H.I.E.L.D didn't hear anything about him and (at least) put his name in the Index.
Also i was talking about the case that the daredevil series takes place after the dissolution of S.H.I.E.L.D. where both Hydra and Shield(s) have kept an eye on super powered individuals
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Yes, but as far as superpowers go, super senses are one of the hardest to detect, especially if the person is trying to actively hide them. Hell, his best friend couldn't tell.
I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.
I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.
Have you finished the series?
I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.Have you finished the series?
Not yet, i am still at episode 7.
Not yet, i am still at episode 7.I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.Have you finished the series?
They comic book logic address most of those complaints by the end
Karla Faye Gideon went on a killing spree with her razor fingers, which probably went a long way toward putting her on SHIELD's radar.They specifically say she had them surgically grafted on though.If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the indexThe thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
But still doesn't explain why "TUUUUUUUUBESS!!!!" was a better option than "Hey, why don't we just...remove the razors?".
I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.
Not every blind person is equally blind. Given Matt's abilities, it would probably be easy for him to fake any tests that might demonstrate him as having no light perception (ie, total blindness).
Even if he couldn't, it would still be a pretty big leap to automatically assume he must have superpowers, particularly when such things weren't exactly a known phenomenon in the MCU until very recently. He wouldn't necessarily have shown up on SHIELD's radar.
That said, obviously Stick came into some degree of awareness of him. Whether that was random chance, Stick had specifically put himself out there to find "special" kids by posing as a teacher of the blind (hence leading to the nuns at St. Agnes contacting him to help Matt), or whether there was something more to it, remains to be seen. So it's possible that SHIELD, or HYDRA, or somebody else might have also been aware.
Speaking of Shield/Hydra connections, did anyone think Hydra were the people Kingpin contacted to break him out? The Commando gear kind of reminded me of Hydra, but it is also very much standard issue swat gear.
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As to SHIELD having Daredevil 'on a list' somewhere, it seems that they had Hawkeye and Black Widow on lists, and they don't have anything other than 'loots hot in black leather' and 'knows how to shoot a gun while doing a backflip' and 'brings a bow to a gunfight' for super-powers.
They certainly might have missed him, over the vigilantes with splashier powers, but his appearing to be non-powered doesn't mean he's going to skate. It just means he'll be on the 'threat list' and not necessarily on the 'index.'
Over the course of the series, people in Hell's Kitchen seem to know about him, even if only as 'the Devil of Hell's Kitchen,' so he's not keeping *that* low of a profile. Given SHIELD's circumstances, they may not have gotten around to sending an agent to track him down and find out what his deal is, but they probably have a file on him (and dozens of other non-powered self-appointed vigilantes, or people who the news reported as doing something amazing, like lifting a van off their child in a burst of adrenaline or surviving getting hit by lightning, as people to 'check out, eventually, just to be sure').
Remember that Hell's Kitchen is like...a square mile. Some (not even all) people in that area knowing about him is not a whole lot of people.
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But still doesn't explain why "TUUUUUUUUBESS!!!!" was a better option than "Hey, why don't we just...remove the razors?".Karla Faye Gideon went on a killing spree with her razor fingers, which probably went a long way toward putting her on SHIELD's radar.They specifically say she had them surgically grafted on though.If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the indexThe thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
Hey, no arguments here :) I said the same thing.
Now if she were growing razor sharp metallic fingernails for some reason, that would explain the tubes. I wonder if that was the original explanation, and it changed during production.
I thought she had done something a little more extensive than just surgically attaching razor blades? but it's been awhile since I have seen that episode.
As to SHIELD having Daredevil 'on a list' somewhere, it seems that they had Hawkeye and Black Widow on lists, and they don't have anything other than 'loots hot in black leather' and 'knows how to shoot a gun while doing a backflip' and 'brings a bow to a gunfight' for super-powers.
They certainly might have missed him, over the vigilantes with splashier powers, but his appearing to be non-powered doesn't mean he's going to skate. It just means he'll be on the 'threat list' and not necessarily on the 'index.'
Over the course of the series, people in Hell's Kitchen seem to know about him, even if only as 'the Devil of Hell's Kitchen,' so he's not keeping *that* low of a profile. Given SHIELD's circumstances, they may not have gotten around to sending an agent to track him down and find out what his deal is, but they probably have a file on him (and dozens of other non-powered self-appointed vigilantes, or people who the news reported as doing something amazing, like lifting a van off their child in a burst of adrenaline or surviving getting hit by lightning, as people to 'check out, eventually, just to be sure').
Matt Murdock is neither of these things. His training was completely unsanctioned by any organization and done in secret.
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I thought she had done something a little more extensive than just surgically attaching razor blades? but it's been awhile since I have seen that episode.
No. It was that bad.
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For those who played the old Marvel Superheros Game, I'll just leave this here.
I am pretty sure Foggy knows that Matt isn't like the other blind men, also it didn't seem to me that Matt was trying really hard to keep his super senses from showing and that's the Matt now as an adult, i am guessing that a kid (and then teen and then young adult) Matt would be even worse at hiding it all the time.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you, I don't actually interact with blind people in anything that could remotely called a common way. The people who have been seeing impaired that I have interacted with in the past on a regular basis were legally blind, i.e. not fully blind. If Foggy's experience is even remotely like mine, Matt might be the first and only fully blind person he has interacted with on a regular basis and thus might have no idea how "other blind men" act other than in a stereotypical way, which Matt does.
I just rented Mockingjay, Part 1 last night, and it was totally immersion breaking seeing Foggy as Cressida's mute cameraman.
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As long as he doesn't get his own show.
Appropriate casting (though Bernthal looks a bit smaller than when he was on TWD).
The Punisher will be part of the Season 2 story arc.
sooo... He's playing the same character, again?
As long as he doesn't get his own show.I'm not the biggest Punisher fan on the planet, but I can see him fitting into the Netflixverse.
Yeah, considering all the corruption that got exposed at the end of Daredevil, plus the brutal gunfight and escape from custody that was stopped only by a masked hero, it makes sense that someone would decide law enforcement wasn't up to the task, and decide to start gunning down the criminals.
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Yeah, considering all the corruption that got exposed at the end of Daredevil, plus the brutal gunfight and escape from custody that was stopped only by a masked hero, it makes sense that someone would decide law enforcement wasn't up to the task, and decide to start gunning down the criminals.As long as he doesn't get his own show.I'm not the biggest Punisher fan on the planet, but I can see him fitting into the Netflixverse.
Exactly, RDN. Kinda like the vigilantes that Batman inspired at the beginning of The Dark Knight, with the exception that Frank is capable of defending himself against Matt in a way the vigilantes were helpless against Bruce.
"I see you got yourself a new costume, Devil. That's fine. As long as there's bad men doing bad things, New York will always need a man in black."
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Watched Daredevil a while back, loved it for obvious reasons, just getting caught up on the thread.
I am halfway through the series, I like it.
I have one question though, although we don't know the exact time this is taking place in the MCU, how come neither Hydra nor Shield(s) have tried '' grabbing '' him? I ask this because with his vast array of super senses, his almost mystical lie detecting abilities and his hand to hand skills that can rival a Shield specialist... Well I can't imagine him NOT being in the Index.
He explicitly kept his powers a complete secret, only started using them in public recently and even then only while in disguise.
Would SHIELD want a guy with those powers on the index? Sure. Are they aware that 'The Devil of Hell's Kitchen' has powers? Probably not. Do they have any way to connect that vigilante to Matt Murdock? Not a chance in hell. Which explains him not being on the Index yet pretty thoroughly.
So...will SHIELD be sending someone to look at The Devil of Hell's Kitchen? Maybe. Old SHIELD certainly would've given their low bar for that sort of thing, but Coulson's people have more limited resources and might need something more overt.
But still doesn't explain why "TUUUUUUUUBESS!!!!" was a better option than "Hey, why don't we just...remove the razors?".Karla Faye Gideon went on a killing spree with her razor fingers, which probably went a long way toward putting her on SHIELD's radar.They specifically say she had them surgically grafted on though.If a woman who got scapels surgically attached to her fingertips made it on the indexThe thing is, we don't know anything about fingernails woman. We don't know if they were sugically attached, or if that's simply how her fingernails grow. It's safe to assume they can't be readily removed, as if that were the caste they would simply have done so, instead of wasting man-hours keeping tabs on her.
I had this reaction initially, but a friend actually pointed something out to me: she installed the razors herself (which, y'know, begs the question how, but is what they said happened). Given that she did it herself and razors aren't hard to acquire...why couldn't she just do it again? This doesn't make the finger-tubes all that sensible an idea, but it does make them a little less ridiculous, since removing the razors isn't as viable if she can easily replace them.
So why not just lock her up?