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Hi All
I am looking for a response from all alignments in this case
Scenario
big bad pit fiend has a cage of captives/sacrifices as perhaps the devil equivalent of popcorn
if he eats such twinkies/M&M etc he destroys their souls totally and further empowers himself
If the party were to kill the captives (so releasing them for pharasma's judgement) would this be considered an "evil act" or in the circumstances a merciful one as surely the continuation of a soul is paramount??
Infernal Duke could be fun.
Diabolic (instead of demonic) version of Swallow Soul maybe.
Definitively, however, the popcorn of all fiends (the soul gem created by soul lock).
Feel free to base something off of that!
But... why would they kill the innocents instead of escaping? Please explain the scenario further.
If the options are "condemn them to the lower planes, or give their souls a chance with Pharasma" the latter is the better one; the problem, however, is I can't envision a situation in which the PCs would follow the latter course instead of die trying to prevent it.
EDIT: to clarify, killing them isn't good. At all. But they can be raised, later, unless Pharasma prevents it, for some reason. Whereas allowing them to be condemned condemns them to eternal torment. That is far worse than a merciful death with the possibility of raising later.
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i have just started to play the council of thieves infernal syndrome
Research has got us the name of my big and fiery ( temporarily contained)
It was mentioned that if "snacks" on mortal souls it help restore his powers
And before we continue I DONT WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS INTHE PLOT
I am just trying to come up with options!
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Hrm. I've run that AP.
Look, don't... it's not... you... you're worrying about this the wrong way.
However: if it comes down to "letting someone roast unjustly forever" or "swift death and Pharasma's judgement" the latter is better, for the reasons I've outlined. Generally? I recommend you try to save them without killing them.
EDIT: flagged for incorrect subforum; you're fine (you didn't do something bad), but I'm letting you know the thread might be moved.
What Tacticslion said, try to save them or die trying, killing them in order to save their immortal souls is a measure for the absolutely worst case scenario (think TPK).
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Here's an Order of the Stick comic that faces a Paladin with a vaguely similar dilemma.
This reminds me of a closely related moral dilemma that occurs in the Ravenloft Campaign Setting:
* It is established in the background that the existence of the BBEG creates the demi-place. If BBEG dies then entire demi-plane, and everything in it, is utterly gone.
* Some Ravenloft demi-planes have thousands of human inhabitants (typically as kine for the BBEG). Note that some of these inhabitants live pretty decent lives, and are born, live, and die without being eaten by demons.
* High level paladin trapped in Ravenloft demi-plane learns all this. Paladin realizes that IF THE BBEG DIES then EVERYONE ELSE DIES TOO. The BBEG may eat 50 humans per year, but killing it will instantly destroy THOUSANDS.
* Paladin was forced into CHOICE OF EVILS. Paladin takes a stand as BBEG's unwilling defender.
* My old GM actually faced us with this scenario. Paladin had Fallen, but was still LG.
* We stopped playing Ravenloft games after this, because of the absurdity.
Here's an Order of the Stick comic that faces a Paladin with a vaguely similar dilemma.
This reminds me of a closely related moral dilemma that occurs in the Ravenloft Campaign Setting:
* It is established in the background that the existence of the BBEG creates the demi-place. If BBEG dies then entire demi-plane, and everything in it, is utterly gone.
* Some Ravenloft demi-planes have thousands of human inhabitants (typically as kine for the BBEG). Note that some of these inhabitants live pretty decent lives, and are born, live, and die without being eaten by demons.
* High level paladin trapped in Ravenloft demi-plane learns all this. Paladin realizes that IF THE BBEG DIES then EVERYONE ELSE DIES TOO. The BBEG may eat 50 humans per year, but killing it will instantly destroy THOUSANDS.
* Paladin was forced into CHOICE OF EVILS. Paladin takes a stand as BBEG's unwilling defender.
* My old GM actually faced us with this scenario. Paladin had Fallen, but was still LG.
* We stopped playing Ravenloft games after this, because of the absurdity.
I'm sure the paladin thought it out as best they could, but then thinking about it in the long run...
Barring being brutally murdurlized, how long would the BBEG live naturally? Oh wait, forever.
So... 50 humans a year, for even a thousand years... is 5000 souls. Even more so as eternity winds along. So overall, destroying that 5k might seem like a lot, but in the GRAND SCHEME of things, actually saves thousands to millions more overall.