Rogue Company (now removed) Breaks NAP far from Home.

[Azure_Zero]

A rogue Freevale company (now removed) has Broken the NAP
Trying to claim all Terra Firma's Central Towers.
on the West side of the map.

Terra Firma's North West Tower

Terra Firma's North Tower

Terra Firma's North East Tower

Terra Firma's South East Tower

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[Lord Regent: Deacon Wulf]

Freevale is not a member of the Xeilias Empire. Are you trying to imply something?

[Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co.]

Freevale is not Empire of Xelias.

Freevale is part of the Nation of Kapalthas, which is in the North Coalition with Empire of Xelias.

[Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co.]

Not sure if Freevale signed the NAP anyway. Good for them if that's the case.

[Ravenlute]

Well, Gpunk did say he was going traveling. :p

Freevale isn't XE though, they are in the two party Nation of Kathalphas.

You're just getting easily confused since both the Nation and Empire form up the Northern Coalition.

[Kadere]

Well well well. Under my understanding, that certainly meets the burden of proof. As a consequence, Freevale's own protection is now void. Can someone confirm that is the case? Cheatle?

[Bluddwolf]

Has Terra Firma's membership been active and have they made an attempt to retake their alpha-six holdings?

[Azure_Zero]

Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co. wrote:

Freevale is not Empire of Xelias.

Freevale is part of the Nation of Kapalthas, which is in the North Coalition with Empire of Xelias.

Fixed that error

[TEO Cheatle]

Gpunk did sign the NAP, although from what I heard that happened, it sounds like it is 1 random person taking the towers.

[Kadere]

Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co. wrote:

Not sure if Freevale signed the NAP anyway. Good for them if that's the case.

Afaik the NAP applies to everyone until they break it - so I guess this may well be a delberate opt-out.

[Azure_Zero]

it was two folks claiming them, which is the size of their company.

[Gol Phyllain]

As long as Freevale doesn't defend those towers its no big deal. That was built into the NAP to prevent people from joining rivals and taking core 6 towers to mess with them.

[TEO Cheatle]

Here is the Treaty/NAP

It hasn't even been a week since the WoT started so, from the NAP:

"The Tower NAP is a Non-Aggression Pact strictly limited to protecting the 6 Towers immediately surrounding a Protected Settlement. Signatories agree not to contest a Protected Settlement’s attempts to control any of its adjacent Towers. Signatories also agree not to attempt to capture any of the Towers adjacent to a Protected Settlement for the first week of the War of Towers.

Any Tower which is not adjacent to a Settlement is not protected by this NAP. Any Tower adjacent to an Inactive Settlement is not protected by this NAP after the first week of the War of Towers."

[Gpunk]

I have previously spoken to new companies joining. If they have violated the Tower NAP they will be removed from the settlement.

[TEO Cheatle]

Fair enough, Gpunk.

I wonder if we could get GW to make said towers free again.

On the 21st of this Month, at 1 PM, any inactive towers should be free to take.

[Kadere]

Seems like the matter will be handled, then. The ejection of the company from Freevale would satisfy me personally, at least. (I can't speak for Sunholm as a whole at this juncture).

[Caldeathe Baequiannia]

Bluddwolf wrote:

Has Terra Firma's membership been active and have they made an attempt to retake their alpha-six holdings?

Doesn't matter. They are protected for one week regardless of efforts.

[Bluddwolf]

Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

Bluddwolf wrote:

Has Terra Firma's membership been active and have they made an attempt to retake their alpha-six holdings?

Doesn't matter. They are protected for one week regardless of efforts.

I had a similar issue with Blackthorn's Band, although they are unaffiliated, and so the recapture was easy.

[DeciusBrutus]

An error by a couple of players is understandable.

Ejecting the company from FreeVale, disbanding it, and reforming the members under a new company (which could then join Freevale) seems to me to be a fairly easy course of action that would sastify me as sufficient to demonstrate that the offense was accidental and promptly remedied.

[Ravenlute]

I am not fond of Freevale for my own reasons but they are Chaotic. Expecting any Chaotic group to hold to a contract is almost as silly as a server wide NAP.

[Kadere]

I expect any settlement that agrees to something to abide by it. And, based on Gpunk's response, they are. This could just as easily have happened to any settlement, honestly. Rogue players abound.

[Ravenlute]

Kadere wrote:

Rogue players abound.

That's true. There are plenty that don't read the forums or even know about the various Alliances and NAP's anyway.

[Thod]

Azure_Zero - thanks for bringing this up

GPunk - thanks for your quick answer

It seems to me it gets handled.

[Gpunk]

Misfits and Mystics Merc Co. has been removed from Freevale. 2 person company added yesterday. Freevale's expectations that both The WoT NAP and The NC NAP be adhered to is in the settlement recruitment posts.

My apologies to Terra Firma. Freevale is an open invite settlement. We do accept all kinds of Chaos, Good and Evil. We just don't accept Chaotic Stupid. I will make Gpunk available (barring RL hangup) to defend the surrounding hex while Terra Firma reclaims it at their earliest convenience.

[Azure_Zero]

Thod wrote:

Azure_Zero - thanks for bringing this up

GPunk - thanks for your quick answer

It seems to me it gets handled.

I just became Talonguard head About Tuesday,

And was informed by Kabal about the NAP yesterday night after finding some Terra Firma towers Capped by them

So I'm rushing to learn what agreements are already in place along with other things.

[Caldeathe Baequiannia]

I'm sure we can also gather one or two from Ozem's if Terra Firma wants a hand

[Ryan Dancey]

Oh, we're not going to touch this with an 11' pole. :) You damn dirty apes. :)

[Hobson Fiffledown]

No inquiry emails returned and the TF contact website is down, we'll see if the towers get reclaimed...

[Azure_Zero]

Hobson Fiffledown wrote:

No inquiry emails returned and the TF contact website is down, we'll see if the towers get reclaimed...

Yeah, I did not notice almost any activity there even in Alpha.

[Hobson Fiffledown]

Hey! I'm a halfling, not an ape. And I am NOT dir.....*sniff sniff*. Wait? What's that smell? Oh my goodness, that's me. I'm so sorry. They haven't turned the water on here in TF yet, no showers.

[Azure_Zero]

@Gpunk
I've changed the thread title to match the updated state of the rogue company
So your settlement does not get as bad a rep.

[Gpunk]

Appreciated, no stress though. I believe in the agreements we signed on behalf of Freevale. Companies and Free Agents wanting to settle in Freevale must respect both NAPs we have signed.

[Azure_Zero]

I didn't want to damage the rep of a settlement that had nothing to do with the rogue's actions.

I'm going to be learning a lot about being a settlement head from everyone as I just became Talonguard head Tuesday,
so I have much to learn and prefer not to burn bridges with those I could learn from.

And the rogue was also a spawn camper as well.

[DeciusBrutus]

Ryan Dancey wrote:

Oh, we're not going to touch this with an 11' pole. :) You damn dirty apes. :)

Working better than intended?

[Ryan Dancey]

I believe I have "2 weeks" in the pool for how long the NAP lasts. :)

[Fierywind]

The real question is Ryan, how are you guys defining the end of the NAP?

[Kadere]

I think you might be surprised, given how swiftly and effectively this matter was settled.

What is the longest bet in the pool, for curiosity?

[Bluddwolf]

Ryan Dancey wrote:

I believe I have "2 weeks" in the pool for how long the NAP lasts. :)

I think you might be surprised Ryan. The Nap only protects the 6 most immediate towers surrounding the PC settlements. That leaves plenty of towers up for grabs.

The purpose behind the NAP is so that these player settlements can have a minimum footing, post cataclysm, and that is believed to be good for all.

[Hark]

I'm sure it will go up in a great big ball of fire once the actual date for WoT to end nears. Other than that the only way I see it getting broken is if somebody seriously offends a a major Alliance.

The people that will be grabbing at core towers will be 'independent' companies looking to stir things up.

[Capitalocracy]

Or unaffiliated people who are bored. I heard someone (won't say who) say they might take some towers just to see if they can get a kill order on them, because being hunted might be fun.

I'm waiting to see when some organized independent company tries to grab a few towers and then sell their allegiance (along with their towers) to the highest bidder.

[Guurzak]

Oi Goblin-boss! Me could maybe arraynj fer sumthin ta happin at a spesific convenyunt time if dat wood help you win a pool. Us split it, ogay?

[DeciusBrutus]

Ryan Dancey wrote:

I believe I have "2 weeks" in the pool for how long the NAP lasts. :)

You mean, before the first breach, or before it no longer makes sense to discuss it as a thing, or before there is a disagreement that forks it according to affiliation?

[DeciusBrutus]

Capitalocracy wrote:

Or unaffiliated people who are bored. I heard someone (won't say who) say they might take some towers just to see if they can get a kill order on them, because being hunted might be fun.

I'm waiting to see when some organized independent company tries to grab a few towers and then sell their allegiance (along with their towers) to the highest bidder.

Neither of those would even remotely be a breach, unless one of the settlements that explicitly signed on accepted a company that had control of one of the protected towers.

[Azure_Zero]

DeciusBrutus wrote:

Ryan Dancey wrote:

I believe I have "2 weeks" in the pool for how long the NAP lasts. :)

You mean, before the first breach, or before it no longer makes sense to discuss it as a thing, or before there is a disagreement that forks it according to affiliation?

Same here, I'm wondering what definition they put as the End of the NAP agreement.

[Scarlette]

Ryan Dancey wrote:

I believe I have "2 weeks" in the pool for how long the NAP lasts. :)

You have a very high opinion of us sir. Being LE, I can't break it, but it doesn't mean I can't hope some one else does!

[Hardin Steele]

Gpunk wrote:

We do accept all kinds of Chaos, Good and Evil. We just don't accept Chaotic Stupid.

There will be a lot of players of the Chaotic Stupid, as well as Lawful Unbearably Pretentious before all is said and done.

[Thod]

My biggest fear always has been that I would invite a chaotic stupid one who 'sees and empty tower' and assumes he is doing me a favour taking it.

And being one big company - apart of the Haggarssons - I wouldn't even be able to figure out easily who the culprit was.

So GPunk really did rise a lot in my respect how swiftly and well he handled it.

[Gpunk]

So. After all of this, Twilight Brigade of Talonguard caps the South West Tower of Terra Firma. Given that there has been no official activity out of Terra Firma, how have they received the ok to do so?

[Hobson Fiffledown]

I had thought Talonguard recovered TF towers (which were taken by an un affiliated company) as per NAPpy people's suggestion. I'm not Involved in any of that though.