The Fourth Horseman |
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Your GM may also rule that the new classes’ class features can substitute for similar features of existing classes for the purposes of qualifying for other prestige classes.
So given that Advanced Class Origins is now sanctioned, I humbly request that our GM, Mr. Brock, provide a clarification on this. Does Blood of Dragons advance the Bloodrager Bloodline, or does it start a new Sorcerer Bloodline with entry to the Dragon Disciple PrC?
I've got a PFS character in a holding pattern until this is resolved, so thanks very much for any time and attention you can give to this.
Jiggy RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
The Fourth Horseman |
This is really a rules question, not a PFS question. Definitely needs answering, but not from here.
With all due respect, Jiggy, I heartily disagree, and wish this hadn't been moved/reported for moving. The section I quoted above makes it pretty clear that the rules team wanted to leave this kind of thing up to GM fiat. PFS' GM is Mike Brock, so I feel it would be appropriate for him to make that ruling; Unless the rules team wants to reverse their apparent attitude with this sort of thing in the ACO book and make a specific ruling.
Sebastian Hirsch |
Well the problem is, that plenty of us have issues/questions they want resolved in PFS and the campaign leadership has decided, that making changes/ruling while we wait for the official rulings is a bad idea.
As written, I could argue that dragon disciple advances only sorcerer bloodlines, I have no idea if this is RAI.
And regarding the bit from Advanced Class Origins, this only talks about qualifying for prestige classes, however that is not the problem.
The bloodrager qualifies just fine, the issue of stacking bloodlines needs to be clarified, which is something the rules team (the friendly people who do the FAQs and don't do them for softcovers) needs to decide.
And to be honest, there are a number of issues I want resolved first, after all you particular combination works, one could argue which version (enhanced bloodrager bloodline or bloodrager and separate sorcerer bloodline) is better.
I am not all that happy with the current state of FAQs... but since we have no way to influence the matter...
Trying to force the issue in PFS might result in an undesirable answer, sometimes no answer is better.
Nefreet |
This is really a rules question, not a PFS question. Definitely needs answering, but not from here.
Jiggy's got the right of it.
If your question concerns a class, spell, item, feat, prestige class, trait, or any other RULES question, it belongs in the Rules Questions Forum.
If your question concerns a Faction, Chronicle Sheets, Prestige, Fame, Additional Resources, or any other PFS question, it belongs in the Pathfinder Society Forum.
That being said, the Advanced Class Guide is hopefully getting an overhaul sooner rather than later. If you're in luck, your question will be a part of that update.
CraziFuzzy |
That being said, the Advanced Class Guide is hopefully getting an overhaul sooner rather than later. If you're in luck, your question will be a part of that update.
Hopefully, yes.. Likely? not sure. Their release schedule seems too aggressive to ever go back and properly fix things. Ultimate Campaign has problems/inconsistencies in just about every chapter, and it hasn't really been touched since release. No sooner did ACG get released, and the occult playtest was in full swing. Don't get me wrong, I LIKE the fact that they are bringing out more material, and realize that they need to - but I've seen this happen in many different long-running game systems - with each addition, a certain amount of bug/inconsistency is added - if those never get fixed, the bugs become sentient, and start eating at the core.
CCP had this problem with Eve Online - they were so excited and kept bring out more and more content and features - but the old maladies were left to fester, until player counts started to drop. Eventually, the 'hopefully it'll be fixed soon' mentality of the customer starts to become 'they don't care about these problems anymore'. Once they shifted direction, and dedicated a good portion of developer time to 'fix the small things', everything started to turn around.
If we are lucky Paizo will figure this out sooner rather than later.
Jason Wu |
The section I quoted above makes it pretty clear that the rules team wanted to leave this kind of thing up to GM fiat. PFS' GM is Mike Brock, so I feel it would be appropriate for him to make that ruling; Unless the rules team wants to reverse their apparent attitude with this sort of thing in the ACO book and make a specific ruling.
Mr Brock generally only makes two rulings.
Ban It.
Don't Ban It.
It is RARE that PFS makes any actual rules alterations from whatever is written. Very rare. As in the entire six+ year run across dozens of allowed sourcebooks and thousands of rules options, and you can count on your hands the number of times it's happened.
-j
Nefreet |
Nefreet wrote:That being said, the Advanced Class Guide is hopefully getting an overhaul sooner rather than later. If you're in luck, your question will be a part of that update.Hopefully, yes.. Likely? not sure.
Erik Mona stated the ACG will be getting its errata as soon as the first print run has completed (which it almost has), and some of those changes have already been implemented in the PRD.
It will be sooner, rather than later.