| felinoel |
Claxon wrote:Yep, before he raised it out of the ocean, that whole stretch of water was one big dead zone. :)In the 4000 or so years that have passed since Aroden lifted the starstone out of the water, only 3 mortals managed to pass.
Perhaps the fish people weren't up to the task.
I remember it saying that only three were known to pass, as though others may have but were unknown to have.
LazarX
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LazarX wrote:I remember it saying that only three were known to pass, as though others may have but were unknown to have.Claxon wrote:Yep, before he raised it out of the ocean, that whole stretch of water was one big dead zone. :)In the 4000 or so years that have passed since Aroden lifted the starstone out of the water, only 3 mortals managed to pass.
Perhaps the fish people weren't up to the task.
The cathedral is full of shrines to the Lost.
LazarX
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LazarX wrote:I remember it saying that only three were known to pass, as though others may have but were unknown to have.Claxon wrote:Yep, before he raised it out of the ocean, that whole stretch of water was one big dead zone. :)In the 4000 or so years that have passed since Aroden lifted the starstone out of the water, only 3 mortals managed to pass.
Perhaps the fish people weren't up to the task.
This is in the big wooly character of stuff that the GM can tinker with for his home game. For myself I don't consider these questions a big deal unless I'm incorporating the answer into the story I'm going to set up.
| Dorcus |
Easy answer: The aboleth are crazy, they stay the heck away from the Starstone because they're crazy and never let the sauhaugin or the Krakens near it because reasons. Or Fishgod alpha was so crazy no one could get near the thing.
Real answer: no one cares about a dang Fishgod, no market to write it up.
Dagon actually makes a pretty good aboleth-gone-god. He got banished to timeless space by Aroden and ended up becoming a demon-whatever a hojillion years ago because time don't work right in the far realms.
| Thanis Kartaleon |
The Starstone is the remnant of the massive meteor the aboleths called to Golarion to destroy the Azlanti, mixed with the divine essence of the gods who tried to stop it. As the aboleth are atheistic, likely they saw no reason to visit the grave of some puny mortal "gods". Any reports brought to them by their gillman slaves of wondrous events near the impact site would be dismissed as mere superstition.
| MagusJanus |
Real answer: no one cares about a dang Fishgod, no market to write it up.
Dagon actually makes a pretty good aboleth-gone-god. He got banished to timeless space by Aroden and ended up becoming a demon-whatever a hojillion years ago because time don't work right in the far realms.
Cthulhu might be another Aboleth example...
| boring7 |
The Starstone is the remnant of the massive meteor the aboleths called to Golarion to destroy the Azlanti, mixed with the divine essence of the gods who tried to stop it. As the aboleth are atheistic, likely they saw no reason to visit the grave of some puny mortal "gods". Any reports brought to them by their gillman slaves of wondrous events near the impact site would be dismissed as mere superstition.
This is true, but it implies NONE of the other hojillion intelligent undersea races every strolled around that part of the ocean, which carries problems which are rather similar to the original question.
| Thanis Kartaleon |
Possibly. Thing is, there were two gods who tried to stop it. The essence given out is three divinities so far. Or, of course, it could have been only two, with Iomedae inheriting Aroden's power and just doing the Starstone test as a PR stunt.
Iomedae completed the test of the Starstone nearly 800 years before Aroden died.
Senko
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Sissyl wrote:Possibly. Thing is, there were two gods who tried to stop it. The essence given out is three divinities so far. Or, of course, it could have been only two, with Iomedae inheriting Aroden's power and just doing the Starstone test as a PR stunt.Iomedae completed the test of the Starstone nearly 800 years before Aroden died.
Do gods perceive time linearly?
LazarX
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Thanis Kartaleon wrote:Do gods perceive time linearly?Sissyl wrote:Possibly. Thing is, there were two gods who tried to stop it. The essence given out is three divinities so far. Or, of course, it could have been only two, with Iomedae inheriting Aroden's power and just doing the Starstone test as a PR stunt.Iomedae completed the test of the Starstone nearly 800 years before Aroden died.
For the purposes of story, apparantly they do, at least most of them.
| David Neilson |
Easy answer: The aboleth are crazy, they stay the heck away from the Starstone because they're crazy and never let the sauhaugin or the Krakens near it because reasons. Or Fishgod alpha was so crazy no one could get near the thing.
Real answer: no one cares about a dang Fishgod, no market to write it up.
Dagon actually makes a pretty good aboleth-gone-god. He got banished to timeless space by Aroden and ended up becoming a demon-whatever a hojillion years ago because time don't work right in the far realms.
Actually I think this may be a case of the Aboleth's being horribly, terribly sane. Its the land apes that go and poke the nearly world ending artifact with a stick. If you simply assume the Aboleth's set up a containment area and brokered a deal with a couple other major undersea powers to not touch the radioactive waste site everything makes sense.
| Sissyl |
Sissyl wrote:Possibly. Thing is, there were two gods who tried to stop it. The essence given out is three divinities so far. Or, of course, it could have been only two, with Iomedae inheriting Aroden's power and just doing the Starstone test as a PR stunt.Iomedae completed the test of the Starstone nearly 800 years before Aroden died.
Blah blah blah. :-) So, we are left with Norgorber and his unknown date of ascension? After all, everyone just assumes that was the starstone... Why?
| Artemis Moonstar |
From the write up on the Starstone, it itself does not raise you to godhood. It's is a way to gain the attention of the gods, though, who then vote you in or out of the god club. That's essentially what the test does.
Probably my most hated aspect of the retcon. Fairly sure it was only put there to explain Mythic Power and then it was all "Oh crap! We forgot we already wrote this!"... Just what it seems like to me.
Tend to thoroughly ignore that the few times I decide to run in Golarion.
W E Ray
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So since the Starstone spent about 5300 years underwater, how come all of the deity fish from that period of time are never spoken of?
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Now I want to make a cleric of the Great Grouper
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Not to stoke the flames too much, but...
In Dungeon 92 some guy named James Jacobs wrote an adventure for 20th Level PCs called "The Razing of Redshore" in which an epic-awesome Whale, Awakened and quite intelligent & powerful (a Druid-thing really), was the crux of the adventure.
So if Jacobs liked the idea of a god-like fish a dozen years ago enough to write the then-highest level adventure ever published by the magazine,...
Who's to say he won't do it again?
W E Ray
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On whether or not there are any "deity fish"--
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No.Part of what made the Starstone Cathedral and the Starstone itself capable of doing what it does is the interaction of magic that resulted when Aroden raised it and the Isle of Kortos from the sea floor. It didn't "activate" until that happened. Until then, it was, essentially, dormant. Powerful magic to be sure, and it could well have caused some nearby denizens of the Darklands or the sea or wherever to perhaps gain the Advanced template or some other boost... but it didn't gain the power to ascend mortals until after it was raised.
There are plenty of other ways for adventures like "Razing of Redshore" to activate, though. And good times! Haven't thought of that adventure for a while!
:-)