How do reach weapons interact with size / reach increases?


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Ok, so I am planning on making an AoO based Bloodrager, who makes use of both size increases and reach increases. He is an Abyssal so he has free enlarge person, and can cast long arm on himself to increase his reach by 5. This gives him 15ft of reach with a normal weapon. I know having a large reach weapon would give him 10-20ft reach, but does the extra 5ft of reach just add to that? Does it make the spear 10-25, or does it make it 15-25? Same with adding lunge, or just lunging with reach weapons.

What about being a cross blooded black blood/aberrant who has 15ft natural reach, 20 with enlarge person? Does that give him 20-30 reach with a spear or 10-30?

Answers are very helpful ^_^


just to add to that.

what happens with a whip in the above scenarios?

whip+enlarge is 30ft reach, or 20ft?
whip+enlarge+lunge is 25ft, 30ft, 35ft or 40ft?


Reach weapons doubles your natural reach and you cannot attack inside your normal natural reach.

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Reach Weapons: A reach weapon is a melee weapon that allows its wielder to strike at targets that aren't adjacent to him. Most reach weapons double the wielder's natural reach, meaning that a typical Small or Medium wielder of such a weapon can attack a creature 10 feet away, but not a creature in an adjacent square. A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away.

A whip is an exception because it triples your natural reach.

NaturalReach / Safe distance /Attack distance
0ft / 0ft / 5ft (10ft with whip) <- Houserule , not supported by RAW
5ft / 5ft / 10ft (15ft with whip)
10ft / 10ft / 20ft (30ft with whip)
15ft / 15ft / 30ft (45ft with whip)
20ft / 20ft / 40ft (60ft with whip)

Situations with creatures with 0 natural reach and reach weapons need a GM decision because there is no RAW.

Grand Lodge

Oh good grief. There's a search button for a reason. There's a lot of debate on this.

If you punch someone you can do so to someone adjacent to you (5' away). With Long Arm you can punch someone 5'-10' away.

I firmly believe that if you use a glaive you threaten at 10'--it's adding 5' to your reach. With Long Arm that increases it to 10'-15' because of your natural reach plus the glaive. Making your arm longer doesn't magically increase the length of your weapon.

"most reach weapons double" is assuming normal circumstances. As a medium creature, if you have 20' reach and use a glaive intended for a medium creature, that glaive doesn't magically grow to reach 20' beyond what it was intended to reach. "most reach weapons double" is assuming a normal reach of 5'. Therefor a a normal reach weapon adds 5' to your reach.

Knowing that, everything can be easily extrapolated from the wielder's natural reach plus how much the weapon would increase the reach if wielded by a "normal" creature it was intended for.

Anyone that says a medium 20' reach plus a medium reach weapon = 40' reach is just flat wrong and bending the rules in a way that appears to work but can't because common sense and thorough read of what it's talking about.

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