I was considering for one of my characters:
Creating a RP group of elves that fundamentally believe that Humans and Elves should never produce offspring. Meaning, they are completely against the birth of Half-Elves. This group would be attempting to educate their people of the dangers of tainting the elven bloodline. Some members might be quite open and forthright with their beliefs, while others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent ways.
Do you see this potentially working?
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I was considering for one of my characters:
Creating a RP group of elves that fundamentally believe that Humans and Elves should never produce offspring. Meaning, they are completely against the birth of Half-Elves. This group would be attempting to educate their people of the dangers of tainting the elven bloodline. Some members might be quite open and forthright with their beliefs, while others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent ways.
Do you see this potentially working?
Do you expect the more radical elements to blame the children themselves, or the human parent who obviously caused the problem, or the elven parent who is week and a traitor to the species?
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Do you see this potentially working?
Honestly, I'm not sure it's the kind of thing that will ever attract large numbers of players, but I've been wrong before and will be again, no doubt.
There is already a group that has talked about RP'ing Elven Supremacy - Taur-im-Duinath - but I'm not sure they'd be compatible because they explicitly welcome Half-Elves.
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Do you expect the more radical elements to blame the children themselves, or the human parent who obviously caused the problem, or the elven parent who is week and a traitor to the species?
I think that's the kind of interesting discussion that should have to be done IG with much drama, sorrow and maybe blood (though remember dueling is for barbarians, Elves like to take their time for feuds among themselves :)
There is already a group that has talked about RP'ing Elven Supremacy - Taur-im-Duinath - but I'm not sure they'd be compatible because they explicitly welcome Half-Elves.
TiD is also welcoming *any* Elves, including the most despicable ones :) I'm looking forward to players who will show all the interesting RP and play-style that can come out of the Elven culture spectrum.
So basically Urlord, your project is a challenging one and will probably not attract a lot of players, but TiD is the place where you are the most likely to be able to do it.
The Landrush page for TiD is here with a link to our forum.
I was worried about that when I saw the name of this thread.
Anyway...
Playing a bunch of haughty elves that think they're better than everyone else sounds fun to me. Elves in general are known to pity half elves for their troubles. It's not much of a stretch to want to prevent their birth. A little further right on that eugenics scale and you find the elves that want to eradicate half elves for basically all the same reasons.
I'd suggest avoiding the far right because it hits a bit close to home to certain historic/current events. Plus it's icky. Though if your group was more middle of the row and assisted in preventing the right from doing something horrible that's be fine.
Our basis for Elves in fantasy is typically drawn J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and his elves were definitely elitist and prejudice. I don't see the League of Elven Purity being too far off the mark from the elves of Lothlorien or Mirkwood, especially those of High Birth.
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I did not see what was posted and thanks Chris for removing it.
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Ahhh, so that's what Elven Purity is! I figured it had something to do with daddy/daughter dances and purity rings and boy bands.
Well then, if it's a race war you guys want, I'm just the dwarf to provide the beverages needed to help you slander and sneer at the lesser races! As a Dwarf, and thus a member of the only species more exalted then Elves, I will lend you the aid of Warstein Ale, for a fair price of course! (prices include the 10% 'Elf Tax')
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Do you expect the more radical elements to blame the children themselves, or the human parent who obviously caused the problem, or the elven parent who is week and a traitor to the species?I think that's the kind of interesting discussion that should have to be done IG with much drama, sorrow and maybe blood (though remember dueling is for barbarians, Elves like to take their time for feuds among themselves :)
There is already a group that has talked about RP'ing Elven Supremacy - Taur-im-Duinath - but I'm not sure they'd be compatible because they explicitly welcome Half-Elves.TiD is also welcoming *any* Elves, including the most despicable ones :) I'm looking forward to players who will show all the interesting RP and play-style that can come out of the Elven culture spectrum.
So basically Urlord, your project is a challenging one and will probably not attract a lot of players, but TiD is the place where you are the most likely to be able to do it.
The Landrush page for TiD is here with a link to our forum.
First of all... dude, you need a new avatar. Srysly, back off.
I was considering for one of my characters:
Creating a RP group of elves that fundamentally believe that Humans and Elves should never produce offspring. Meaning, they are completely against the birth of Half-Elves. This group would be attempting to educate their people of the dangers of tainting the elven bloodline. Some members might be quite open and forthright with their beliefs, while others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent ways.
Do you see this potentially working?
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Secondly, cool idea. I would "run with it". Would you also want to kill, erm, "ethnically cleanse" all humans as well? Just curious. I already have plans, so I couldn't join, but still, seems like a great idea for a Neutral Good guild.
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Our basis for Elves in fantasy is typically drawn J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and his elves were definitely elitist and prejudice. I don't see the League of Elven Purity being too far off the mark from the elves of Lothlorien or Mirkwood, especially those of High Birth.
Treading on shaky ground here but I found this interesting to the topic at hand. Tolkien's dwarves are intended to have many parallels with Jewish culture. Like Moria is kind of a parallel to how the Jews lost their homeland and were forced to wander. The idea of a hard working / industrious race was also intended as a parallel.
The relationship between dwarves and elves was mean to be similar to the relationship between Jews and Gentiles.
Just a random / interesting (IMO at least) note given that modern dwarves / elves are mainly based around Tolkien's versions.
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After giving this a great deal of thought, I would like to form a Company with the LoEP. Here is the basic information for the group:
Alignment: TN
Mission: The mission of the League of Elven Purity is to research, promote, defend and protect all facets of elven culture and heritage. We strive to foster pride in our Elven heritage within all our constituents, whether they are long-time residents or recent arrivals.
Website: http://loep.guildlaunch.com
Member Roles:
- Lore Masters - One of the functions of the League is to research and chronicle Elven history. Lore Masters are members responsible for maintaining the accuracy of the official Elven Lore. This lore would become part of the official archive and posted on the League Wiki.
- Genealogical Researchers - League members will create Elven character genealogies for players in exchange for in-game payment. Basically, it would be made up information with guidance from the player if they wanted anything specific in their family tree. Once, created, these genealogies would become part of the official archive and posted on the League Wiki.
- Artists with an interest or experience in Heraldry - I would like to have a couple of people who are good enough at art (I stink at art) to produce heraldry artwork for characters in exchange for in-game payment. Once created, these heraldry devices would become part of the official archive and posted on the League Wiki.
- Craftsmen and Merchants who wish to promote Elvish trade and crafts - We would be looking for ways to improve the production and trade of Elven crafts, while also looking for ways to weaken non-elven production and trade.
- Teachers who wish to help with educational programs - We would help document things that would be common to elven culture and work to educate new players in those things so improve consistency and improve the immersiveness of the culture.
- Warrior to defend and protect our Elvish heritage - We would train and equip a fighting force to assist in the defense of the settlement as well as undertake missions of a more "sensitive" nature, such as persuading non-elves from performing activities that could undermine or harm Elvish interests.
- General Members who share the mission of the League - Anyone who agrees that the Elven culture should be maintained, should join.
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I've added your Company to the Guild Recruitment & Helpful Links list. If you have a brief description you'd like to appear there to let people know about your guild while they're browsing that list, just PM me or post a clear request here.
Good luck :)
This group would be attempting to educate their people of the dangers of tainting the elven bloodline. Some members might be quite open and forthright with their beliefs, while others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent ways.
Secondly, cool idea. I would "run with it". Would you also want to kill, erm, "ethnically cleanse" all humans as well?
seems like a great idea for a Neutral Good guild.
Sweet Jesus. No.
Good does not work that way.
Neutral on the moral axis does not work that way.
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[...]others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent waysseems like a great idea for a Neutral Good guild.Sweet Jesus. No.
Good does not work that way.
Neutral on the moral axis does not work that way.
I think Xorgrond was ironical here :)
You should also note that the aims/goals of Urlord's project is not anymore about ethnical "cleansing" and obviously evil stuff. He probably needs to rework his communication and create a new thread. Nevertheless your comments are welcome. There are lots of really interesting RP and knowledge stuff in Urlord's project, that deserves to be publicized.
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Good does not work that way.
Neutral on the moral axis does not work that way.
One difficulty, Mikaze, was that you had the misfortune to be reading a poster who was banned the next day, but didn't have all the posts from his alternate board-identities deleted. His aim appeared to have been to cause people like you exactly that type of agita.
[...]others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent waysseems like a great idea for a Neutral Good guild.Sweet Jesus. No.
Good does not work that way.
Neutral on the moral axis does not work that way.I think Xorgrond was ironical here :)
You should also note that the aims/goals of Urlord's project is not anymore about ethnical "cleansing" and obviously evil stuff. He probably needs to rework his communication and create a new thread. Nevertheless your comments are welcome. There are lots of really interesting RP and knowledge stuff in Urlord's project, that deserves to be publicized.
I completely agree that the comment "... others might be secret members who strive to "Cleanse" the tainted bloodlines in more violent ways" would not be a Good aligned action. However, the alignment of the League of Elven Purity is True Neutral. Regardless of Law, Chaos, Good or Evil, we are focused on this mission statement:
The mission of the League of Elven Purity is to research, promote, defend and protect all facets of elven culture and heritage.
We strive to foster pride in our Elven heritage within all our constituents, whether they are long-time residents or recent arrivals.
The LoEP is all about promoting Elven culture. Sure you might get the occasional wacko that take it to the utter extreme, but that could be true of almost any organization.
Secondly, cool idea. I would "run with it". Would you also want to kill, erm, "ethnically cleanse" all humans as well?
Why would the LoEP want to do this? We don't care what humans (or any other non-elf race for that matter) does, as long as it doesn't interfere with our elven way of life.
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Why would the LoEP want to do this?
Same issue as my answer to Mikaze above, Urlord. Someone tried to cause you to address--or even to defend--a position you were clear you'd not hold; that questioner's been banned, so you can safely move along the (forest) road of true Elven conquest!
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Why would the LoEP want to do this?Same issue as my answer to Mikaze above, Urlord. Someone tried to cause you to address--or even to defend--a position you were clear you'd not hold; that questioner's been banned, so you can safely move along the (forest) road of true Elven conquest!
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Dear Jazzlvraz - Hûd Glanas Edhellen as we call it is not interested in conquest. On the contrary, we desire that all civilized races live side by side as peaceful neighbors. Because only then, can the uniqueness and beauty of each culture truly shine. Our goal is focused on the preservation and promotion of Elven Culture. I would hope that every race would have a group dedicated to such a cause. Just because you are a proponent of one thing, doesn't automatically make you an opponent of others.
As stated above, the league would only be against issues that threaten Elven culture. For example, if an evil warlord were attacking our settlement, then of course the Hûd would raise up arms against them. Likewise, if someone were poisoning the minds of our people with propaganda, trying to undermine our beliefs, that too would be a threat. Without a threats such as these, the Hûd will concentrate its efforts on preservation, education and strengthening our society.
This whole debate appears to stem from our views of half-humans (the child of Elven and human parents). Just as with any controversial subject, views will vary. Personally, my feelings on the matter are of pity and sadness. Due to the unwise decisions of the parents, that child will be in limbo between two different cultures, never being truly accepted by either. But again, that is my personal view on the subject.
I thank you for your interest in Hûd Glanas Edhellen and perhaps in time you will lose your distrust and skepticism.
Peace,
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May all I do bring joy to Findeladlara
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Our goal is focused on the preservation and promotion of Elven Culture. I would hope that every race would have a group dedicated to such a cause. Just because you are a proponent of one thing, doesn't automatically make you an opponent of others.
Truer words have seldom fallen on my (pointy High Elf) ears.
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Well, that's a Fantasy Racist Company. But everytime I see the "Kill all the Orcs", "kill all the evil" quotes, I think the same way.
So, do you kill an half-elf baby, for the sake of your believes? Are you hostile with couples of human/elf and ther brethen?
This sound like a Neutral Evil or even Lawful Evil behavior to me...
Well, that's a Fantasy Racist Company. But everytime I see the "Kill all the Orcs", "kill all the evil" quotes, I think the same way.
So, do you kill an half-elf baby, for the sake of your believes? Are you hostile with couples of human/elf and ther brethen?
This sound like a Neutral Evil or even Lawful Evil behavior to me...
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Your view of our organization is both short-sided and violent. Nowhere did I say anything about killing half-human children. I said that I felt pity and sadness for them due to the impulsive decisions of their parents. I also said that this was my personal viewpoint.The League looks at the issue of half-human offspring from a long-term perspective and uses education of elven children & youth as the primary means of correction. But, I understand this may be a difficult concept for members of shorter lived races to fully grasp.
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