
Corathonv2 |
What I thought was weak was the whole reasoning behind suspension because he killed someone but then the person was alive. Like what do you mean you don't believe it you can go to the guys house and talk to him!
In our world that'd pretty much a lock.
In a comic book world, where a lot of weird stuff has happened that everyday people know about, I could see some skepticism.
phantom1592 |

I'm pretty sure it'll be Jesse. She covered for Jay when he was trapped in the speed force... basically abandoning earth 2, but whatcha gonna do.
Frankly, they established that every earth has a krypton... we've seen alternate versions of the cast of Flash AND Arrow... it's really kind of dumb to keep drafting people from OTHER earths to protect earth 2/3/etc...
I mean... they just established that Wells set up a Team Flash for Jesse before he was fired, so are they going to displace ALL of Team Flash-2?
Wally really should stay with the Legends even if he's a little overpowered I don't want to see him banished to another earth

Goth Guru |

This relates. Stay with me.
In the living city campaign, our characters went to SIGIL. We showed up and found our contact murdered. The local paladins arrested us(The witnesses) even though one of us was a paladin. In the subsequent treial we had to select either a slightly good layer who never won a trial, or a devil with a perfect track record. We chose the devil, but we did not sign anything. We won but were disbarred from ever visiting SIGIL again. Ever after I told everyone I never wanted to visit SIGIL again because it was evil, not neutral.
Maybe the timeline where metas are outlawed in legends is a result of shody justice like that driving heros into other earths leaving only criminal metas. Another case of the problem offering to solve itself, then just shafting the public more.
I did not understand that last scene in the latest Flash. Was that the Thinker? What did she say?

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Seems like it's been obvious through much of the season that Ralph, with his adaptive cells, is the endgame for Devoe, to transfer at the end with all the dark matter-derived powers into a body that literally *can't* break down.
And yet, either the writers don't intend this at all, or Team Flash are dumber than usual, and haven't figured it out yet...

Greylurker |

Ok ... things looking pretty bad however I think they may have done something fairly clever with what happened to Killer Frost.
A) Powers had to go somewhere
B) Aspect of said powers includes alternate personality
Combine with Caitlin just created a Drug that would let her bring out Killer Frost without an Adrenalin surge
So my guess is Ralph may not be gone, and may also have some ice powers as a bonus.

Damon Griffin |

OK. Knowing that the 12 Bus Metas + Driver who died later = 12 Heat Signatures (including one in the driver's seat) is screw up behind the scenes. My question is: in universe which of the twelve was a vampire or otherwise gave off no heat sig?
Huh. I guess I missed the sequence there. I thought the missing heat signature was due to Gauss dropping into a personal pocket dimension.

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All I know is that if we don't get Ralph back, I'm gonna flip every table.
All of them.
In the whole world.
Yes. :) I did not like him, at first, but now he's just a breath of fresh air.
One thing that bugs me is that if they are able to rescue the various people whose brains DeVoe has over-written (which it would not surprise me are still tucked away in DeVoe's big ol' brain, since he has demonstrated knowledge from some of them, and so clearly has absorbed at least *some* of them), is that they don't seem to have been saving the bodies, which means that even if any of them other than Ralph are recoverable they won't have bodies to go back to.

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DeVoe's wisdom is certainly in serious question. Not to mention his short term memory. He failed to take emotional factors of his enemies into account after he'd already found it necessary to drug Marlize repeatedly to ensure her continued cooperation. And then failed to anticipate her betrayal tonight after she'd repeatedly gotten in his face about killing people.
All of this means he doesn't account for all possible variables, he just thinks he does, which more or less proves Thomas's point about DeVoe's presumed intelligence as well. In some small ways, he's a bit like H.R., whose undisputed intellect never stops him from doing dumb things.
The mass dumbing down of humanity strikes me as a near Thanos-like solution to a perceived problem. You need them not only stupid enough to prevent the [re]invention of any real technology, you need them to be so stupid they can no longer utilize what's already there, or be able to just copy from books to build what was previously invented. I've heard nothing about the "Enlightenment" that suggests how existing technology would be removed worldwide.
And if he somehow accomplishes this, then what? Lacking tech to be either useful or harmful, 7 billion dumb humans now complete for basic resources by killing each other with spears and clubs? Or do his magic satellites make everyone total pacifists as well? AND HOW IS ANY OF THAT AN ENLIGHTENMENT?

GreenDragon1133 |
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Right now I'm not convinced that DeVoe is as smart than he thinks he is. Mostly because what smart guy wants to run a country that has everyone else that's a moron? I mean seriously...
Pinky: But Brain, you could lead these people easily.
Brain: Yes, but who would want to?DeVoe is an idiot, and if his plan succeeds it would lead to billions of deaths. Worse, who is going to be supervising all the nuclear reactors, contagious disease stocks, and every other potential WMD that exists for benevolent purposes?
This plan will result in somewhere upwards of 6 billion people, and leave almost no habitable land.

jemstone |

At least when Thanos has plans, they make sense.
No. NO THEY DO NOT.
NO.
Saviors FIND ANOTHER WAY that doesn't involve killing people. Infinite cosmic power, and he's going to save the universe by killing people? And his science is flawed in every way. The universe is not finite. The solution to scarcity is to uplift and renew, not eliminate half the frickin' frackin' universe.
He literally has the power to create limitless energy, feed, house, clothe, and uplift everyone... and he kills people.
Short form, both DeVoe and Thanos' plans are utterly psychopathic and aren't based in reality. Marlize was right in the flashback when she called it an extremist's manifesto. He's not a savior, he's a murderer, and he's going to murder the entire planet if he gets his way.