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Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.
True Resurrection functions as Raise Dead with some of the restrictions lifted.
In addition, the subject's soul must be free and willing to return. If the subject's soul is not willing to return, the spell does not work; therefore, a subject that wants to return receives no saving throw.
If the lich doesn't want to be raised ...
True Resurrection functions as Raise Dead with some of the restrictions lifted.
In addition, the subject's soul must be free and willing to return. If the subject's soul is not willing to return, the spell does not work; therefore, a subject that wants to return receives no saving throw.If the lich doesn't want to be raised ...
So I cannot force a Will save on them then, okay, that was my main concern, or rather my players can't do it to my lich.
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Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.
Interestingly...
This spell can also resurrect elementals or outsiders, but it can't resurrect constructs or undead creatures.
Which contradicts that. Either way, I'd suggest that the spell, like Raise Dead as mentioned, has no effect upon an unwilling creature.
My curiosity was as to whether or not spells like Slay Living had 'white magic' antitheses in the resurrection spells when used on the unliving in the same way that curative spells have in the inflicting spells.
It saddens me that there are not 'save or live' spells, but I appreciate for the sake of my encounters not being cut short by the same cheese that inspired this thread.
Well, I think the fear was that if they were not resistable, the BBEG could torture his victims to death and then raise them to do it all over again.
Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.Interestingly...
Which contradicts that. Either way, I'd suggest that the spell, like Raise Dead as mentioned, has no effect upon an unwilling creature.
This spell can also resurrect elementals or outsiders, but it can't resurrect constructs or undead creatures.
HA, that's funny. I suspect two different writers were involved in this. Personally, I think I would force the will save to resist much like the way cure spells work. Clearly the actual rules are a little confused on the issue.
I'm curious, how on earth are is the caster of the spell going to keep a lich helpless for 10 minutes while the spell is cast?
Destroy the body while in possession of the phylcatery. It takes d10 days for the lich to rebuild, that should be enough time.
Ill omen, Charm monster, "allow yourself to be raised", opposed charisma check, True Resurrection, back to OP's question?
Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.Interestingly...
This spell can also resurrect elementals or outsiders, but it can't resurrect constructs or undead creatures.Which contradicts that. Either way, I'd suggest that the spell, like Raise Dead as mentioned, has no effect upon an unwilling creature.
It's actually not a contradiction. See the sentence directly before the one about not being able to resurrect constructs or undead creatures:
You can revive someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed.
This is the part the undead type refers to.
The sentence you quoted presumably refers to attempts to "resurrect" an undead creature before it has been destroyed, which isn't possible.
Phylcatery keep Lich soul "safe" in lichdom.
Lich has option of resurrection from True Ressection. Sure! Why not? Phylcatery keep non-clone Lich unaffected. Lich also get clone in copy of old body. Now PCs must fight both.
Not affected by raise dead and reincarnate spells or abilities. Resurrection and true resurrection can affect undead creatures. These spells turn undead creatures back into the living creatures they were before becoming undead.Interestingly...
This spell can also resurrect elementals or outsiders, but it can't resurrect constructs or undead creatures.Which contradicts that. Either way, I'd suggest that the spell, like Raise Dead as mentioned, has no effect upon an unwilling creature.It's actually not a contradiction. See the sentence directly before the one about not being able to resurrect constructs or undead creatures:
You can revive someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed.This is the part the undead type refers to.
The sentence you quoted presumably refers to attempts to "resurrect" an undead creature before it has been destroyed, which isn't possible.
I think you can. The idea of these spells is that it revives a creature that has been killed to its state prior to being killed. What the "can't" refers to (from my reading) is you can't take vampire dust and turn it back into a vampire with these spells. What you can do is take a willing vampire (undead or fully dead) and turn it into a living, breathing person.
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As liches are described, I would say the primary problem to getting a lich willing to become living is that a lich's mind can't process any sort of reason for not remaining a lich. It has all the time in the world, it doesn't need to eat, sleep or even breathe, and if there was a point to smiles, laughing, rainbows, or fluffy kittens, that is now firmly in the category of stuff not worth considering. YLMV.