I know Roll20 is free, but I am willing to support the d20Pro folks for the hard work in working with the Frogs although I have yet to work out how to get players to access it remotely<G>! Their maps from the Kickstarter are great!
I emailed d20 Pro to see if they had the resources to make the virtual maps.
Great news. FGG is the reason I picked up Hero Lab and D20Pro in the first place.
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Mach, Im sure we can work something out. It helps us as well to only send one package. Maybe there's a bonus for waiting???
SG
PS I dont know that there is a bonus, Im just trying to make Bill say "Shut up Skeet!" on the boards lol
Didn't that used to be Blonde Frog's job?
Same here Chaos Monkey. Speaking on that, what's up with the RealmWork's support? Is that coming soon and is it worth getting?
I think all my players are Barbarians Bill, can't get them to read the Players Guides I have.
It is impossible for me to say no to FGG!
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We're through all but the last of the stretch goals already. I'm really psyched for this project! I hope the momentum continues so I can pick up that $5 player's guide so that, later when I finally have the product my players can completely ignore it and wander blindly through the campaign. C'MON FORUM!
Lol Mark, I see your players are like mine! I will get it but I can't see many of my players actually taking the time to read it.
We're through all but the last of the stretch goals already. I'm really psyched for this project! I hope the momentum continues so I can pick up that $5 player's guide so that, later when I finally have the product my players can completely ignore it and wander blindly through the campaign. C'MON FORUM!
So true.
Lord Webb, with that kind of confidence I can't WAIT to see what "additional stretch goals" crop up AFTER the 30k. Man I'm lovin this!
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btw--once unlocked, you can add multiple copies of the PG for the discount (hint, hint)--one for each player!
Seriously though--we will get to 30k I think.
That's why I already added on enough for all five of my players. No one will be left behind. And if they don't bother to read it, well then. When the scarey monsters eat their faces off, I'm not to blame.
That's why I already added on enough for all five of my players. No one will be left behind. And if they don't bother to read it, well then. When the scarey monsters eat their faces off, I'm not to blame.btw--once unlocked, you can add multiple copies of the PG for the discount (hint, hint)--one for each player!
Seriously though--we will get to 30k I think.
It's the perfect DM deniability. "Your Honor, I had no idea he wouldn't read the players guide. I *bought* it for him! It's not *my* fault his face got eaten!"
:)
roflmao!
So I see that we've hit all the stretch goals and the $5 Player's Guides are available as an Add On. So do I just change my pledge to $45 and then, when I get a survey I select the Player's Guide add on then? I ask because it's not giving me the chance to add it on right now.
So I see that we've hit all the stretch goals and the $5 Player's Guides are available as an Add On. So do I just change my pledge to $45 and then, when I get a survey I select the Player's Guide add on then? I ask because it's not giving me the chance to add it on right now.
That's odd, all you should need to do is use the pledge manager button, and then change the dollar amount. But if it's not working (and that sounds like your problem), then you should contact Kickstarter about it.
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You add 5 dollars to your total pledge, but do not adjust the pledge level. Then, when the Kickstarter closes you will be asked to fill out a survey telling Frog God what you want done with the additional dollars. At that time you'll be able to select the Player's Guides.
So time to brain-storm what new stretch goals we'd like to see.
:)
More encounters are great, but maybe a few more NPC's in a booklet (or pdf)?
I have been considering making useful Pregens for the Pathfinder side. The Pre-gens for RA work, and are legit PCs form Bill's early game, but they didn't translate too well to Pathfinder rules. will be something we consider.
Question along the vein of possible stretch goals:
How well detailed is the closest city, Endhome? Could a more detailed map and description of the city by quarter be helpful? Is that already pretty thorough in the adventure? Or, maybe it is forthcoming in your campaing setting book?
Just curious as this is being co-billed as a mini-campaign as well as a mega-adventure. Putting more layers on the PC's homebase always helps them in immersion.
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Question along the vein of possible stretch goals:
How well detailed is the closest city, Endhome? Could a more detailed map and description of the city by quarter be helpful? Is that already pretty thorough in the adventure? Or, maybe it is forthcoming in your campaing setting book?Just curious as this is being co-billed as a mini-campaign as well as a mega-adventure. Putting more layers on the PC's homebase always helps them in immersion.
I agree with Kaiser - more is always better, but it doesn't need to be encounters. More detailed Endhome (as base) is a good thing.
Bill and Co. I have a question as it relates to the original hardcover for LCoB - were you planning on including the fold out map of Endhome which is pasted (and still pasted in my copy) of the book, or has that concept been removed with this re-release?
Question along the vein of possible stretch goals:
How well detailed is the closest city, Endhome? Could a more detailed map and description of the city by quarter be helpful? Is that already pretty thorough in the adventure? Or, maybe it is forthcoming in your campaing setting book?Just curious as this is being co-billed as a mini-campaign as well as a mega-adventure. Putting more layers on the PC's homebase always helps them in immersion.
I agree with Kaiser - more is always better, but it doesn't need to be encounters. More detailed Endhome (as base) is a good thing.
Bill and Co. I have a question as it relates to the original hardcover for LCoB - were you planning on including the fold out map of Endhome which is pasted (and still pasted in my copy) of the book, or has that concept been removed with this re-release?
I think that we will have news relating to this question fairly soon. I don;t think that Bill wants to make any kind of promises until we've figured out a definite plan. It's not something that has been ruled out, though!
So far all the stretch goals have been wilderness encounters, so we probably don't need any more than that. I also agree a base would be cool, but it sounds like that's in the works for it's own product so I won't beat that dead horse. What about some fleshed out FEATURES then as a compromise. Doesn't need to be a base, but an extra group in the area added and detailed to provide potential aid to the party like a mercenary group or a traveling caravan. I've not played any FGG megadungeon type games but run several of my own. One thing my players have always liked and asked for more of in those types of games has been interesting NPCs to interact with in and around the dungeon; folks to provide useful intel, items, or resources.
TL/DR: I think if maps are too expensive and settlements aren't a thing, give us NPCs or useful groups added in as stretch goals.
You add 5 dollars to your total pledge, but do not adjust the pledge level. Then, when the Kickstarter closes you will be asked to fill out a survey telling Frog God what you want done with the additional dollars. At that time you'll be able to select the Player's Guides.
Done! Dearest Bill, if you keep adding even more amazing add ons to this project please understand you'll have to answer to my wife.
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Belishan sucks the life out of everything, doesn't he?
This might be a bit selfish of me to say, but when new stretch goals are posted, I hope we don't skip over the $10,000 gap that has been accomplished by backers so far. I mean, while the purpose of the goals is to stretch so technically retroactive bonuses don't fit with that, I'd hate to think that we'd miss out because we were too supportive too fast.
We will wait Bill. A lot of us are wore out after the Dwarven Forge KS anyway!
New stretch goals are in. Everyone; we should all head back in for round 2. Add ons galore.
Awesome for the add-on maps... do we know what size they will be?
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Will the maps be player friendly (i.e. not show any secret DM stuff) or is it designed mainly for DMs to use when they are preparing the adventure?
Personally, I'd be more interested in a player friendly map.
4 panel bw and 6 panel color
sweet bring on that 6 panel colour map!
What are the size of the panels?
YES, MOAR MAPS!
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What are the size of the panels?
Generally around 81/2 x 11 (little smaller usually).
Map Size - I believe these will be in the ballpark of 17" x 22" for the 4 panel B&W, and 25 1/2" x 22" for the 6 panel. DO NOT quote me on that, but that's the typical size of 4- and 6- panel maps. I did not see the actual quote from the printer detailing size specs. But that's my (educated) guess.
Will the maps be player friendly (i.e. not show any secret DM stuff) or is it designed mainly for DMs to use when they are preparing the adventure?
Personally, I'd be more interested in a player friendly map.
Still waiting for an answer to this question.
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I can't answer for FGG, but if the B&W larger Endhome map is the same that came in the back of the book it was keyed (had numbers) but was otherwise an overview of the town and the immediate area around the town. If they re-release this my suggestion would be a non-keyed, player friendly version.
The larger environs color map would have the names of famous or critical areas (Bards Gate, Rappan Athuk, etc) but beyond that would be similar to other large region maps and not give away much more.
I would suppose if the location of the Lost City was noted (as an example of an unknown location to the players) that would be relevant to it's use as a player friendly aid. I think the well known or rumored areas should be listed, but the smaller hidden dungeons should not.
Some feedback on this would be appreciated - I guess the degree it's keyed is going to factor into how often I bring it out for the players.
The problem with that as I see it is then you have to have two versions of the map. I personally don't an issue with a map with keyed areas on it and the players seeing it especially if they are just numbers. I never found the players versions of the JG old maps all that useful. I would vote for just one map myself.
I asked Greg to comment on this, Laric.